Welcome to the podcast where we dissect the most recent episode of "The Weeks", a podcast that delves into the heart of Burbank's transformations, tributes, and the delightful quirks that shape the community.
The groundbreaking of the new airport terminal in Southern California takes center stage, symbolizing the city's progress and future. The anticipation for the terminal is palpable, especially with promises that it will open on time for the 2026 Olympics. Not only does this development signify convenience for travelers, but it also underscores the effectiveness of local governance, promising no financial burden on the city itself.
Listeners interested in the intricacies of urban planning will appreciate the detailed exploration of Burbank's growth and the delicate balance between preserving community charm and embracing necessary change. The discussion on city council updates sheds light on the role of young professionals in shaping the city's future, while the debate over public art placement at the airport raises important questions about accessibility and the public's right to art.
For those captivated by the majesty of aviation, this episode does not disappoint. It provides personal anecdotes of plane spotting, including the awe-inspiring C5As, and dives into the physics of flight. The conversation about aviation isn't limited to just the technicalities; it extends to include the local impact of flight patterns and the challenges posed by weather phenomena like Santa Ana winds.
Addressing more serious matters, the podcast delves into local initiatives to combat human trafficking and assesses the effectiveness of the Landlord Tenant Commission in mediating tenant disputes. These discussions underscore the podcast's commitment to tackling significant issues and making a real difference in the trenches of community issues.
The episode also brings to light the less-discussed aspects of Burbank's infrastructure, such as the lack of codification for bike path usage, highlighting the need for clearer rules and community awareness to ensure safety.
The podcast would not be complete without mentioning the key topics that affect residents directly, such as new laws aimed at reducing catalytic converter theft and enhancing road safety. The implications of these measures on property crime and public safety are explored in depth, reflecting the podcast's holistic approach to discussing urban issues.
In summary, this episode encapsulates the spirit of Burbank, weaving together nostalgia, current events, and a forward-looking perspective. It is a must-listen for anyone connected to the city or interested in the dynamics of urban life. So tune in, laugh, reflect, and join the conversation about the ever-evolving tapestry that is Burbank.
Welcome to the podcast where we dissect the most recent episode of "The Weeks", a podcast that delves into the heart of Burbank's transformations, tributes, and the delightful quirks that shape the community.
The groundbreaking of the new airport terminal in Southern California takes center stage, symbolizing the city's progress and future. The anticipation for the terminal is palpable, especially with promises that it will open on time for the 2026 Olympics. Not only does this development signify convenience for travelers, but it also underscores the effectiveness of local governance, promising no financial burden on the city itself.
Listeners interested in the intricacies of urban planning will appreciate the detailed exploration of Burbank's growth and the delicate balance between preserving community charm and embracing necessary change. The discussion on city council updates sheds light on the role of young professionals in shaping the city's future, while the debate over public art placement at the airport raises important questions about accessibility and the public's right to art.
For those captivated by the majesty of aviation, this episode does not disappoint. It provides personal anecdotes of plane spotting, including the awe-inspiring C5As, and dives into the physics of flight. The conversation about aviation isn't limited to just the technicalities; it extends to include the local impact of flight patterns and the challenges posed by weather phenomena like Santa Ana winds.
Addressing more serious matters, the podcast delves into local initiatives to combat human trafficking and assesses the effectiveness of the Landlord Tenant Commission in mediating tenant disputes. These discussions underscore the podcast's commitment to tackling significant issues and making a real difference in the trenches of community issues.
The episode also brings to light the less-discussed aspects of Burbank's infrastructure, such as the lack of codification for bike path usage, highlighting the need for clearer rules and community awareness to ensure safety.
The podcast would not be complete without mentioning the key topics that affect residents directly, such as new laws aimed at reducing catalytic converter theft and enhancing road safety. The implications of these measures on property crime and public safety are explored in depth, reflecting the podcast's holistic approach to discussing urban issues.
In summary, this episode encapsulates the spirit of Burbank, weaving together nostalgia, current events, and a forward-looking perspective. It is a must-listen for anyone connected to the city or interested in the dynamics of urban life. So tune in, laugh, reflect, and join the conversation about the ever-evolving tapestry that is Burbank.
from deep in the Burbank Media District. It's time for another edition of my Burbank Talks, presented by the staff of my Burbank. Now let's see what's on today's agenda as we join our program.
Speaker 2:Hello Burbank, Craig Sherwood here with you once again, along with Craig Durling. Hey everybody, Welcome back and let's never forget.
Speaker 1:Ross Benson, who could forget?
Speaker 3:The week there was, the week there will be, is today, the last week, and today is the 29th.
Speaker 1:Boy, did I miss a helium balloon somewhere in their room today?
Speaker 2:We usually can't get him to talk. In this time he's deep. I need a home.
Speaker 3:You see on the show?
Speaker 1:OK, no, but these pants are new and they're a little tight, little tight in the check the end seam.
Speaker 2:Well, let's start off with last week's winner.
Speaker 1:Sounds like a great winner, Winner, winner chicken dinner. They have chicken dinner. I think there might be something on the menu.
Speaker 2:Well, our winner, lisa Douglas, gets that $25 gift card the Hill Street Cafe, where there's probably chicken on the menu.
Speaker 1:Probably made. Congratulations, lisa. 25 bucks $25 gift card to Hill Street Cafe and that will buy a pretty good meal.
Speaker 2:I should get that. Well, she sent in the word heritage to us.
Speaker 1:That was a word of the week last week, last week, heritage Helium.
Speaker 3:Oh no, heritage, no no.
Speaker 2:I'm not what you're on, not what you're taking. Historical, hysterical.
Speaker 1:Hysterical. So Lisa won a listening to last week's episode, and if somebody out there listening tonight wants to possibly win a Hill Street Cafe gift card.
Speaker 2:email winner at my burbankcom.
Speaker 1:Winner at my burbank Put the listen tonight through the whole episode tonight and put the word this week's word of the week.
Speaker 2:Guess it'd be a new word.
Speaker 1:New word this week.
Speaker 2:It's coming up. You don't know what it's going to be, where it's going to be.
Speaker 1:It's never in the first half of the show. No, we don't do that. How to listen? You got to stick around and it was.
Speaker 2:Interesting side note is I always cut the Cut it off at Friday at midnight and I got her email around 9 30 on Friday night, so she was Woo. So they're right in. I put her in the in the, the VAT of emails and I signed a, shook it up and she came. We signed a number to all the emails that come in. And then I asked the Alexa thing Give me a random selection one and whatever, and whatever number comes out right on, and we have to be the last number, and that was hers.
Speaker 3:Excellent, I got to say. Then, if she did it, at what time?
Speaker 2:on 9 30, I got the email.
Speaker 3:He's got a real great social life. If she's listening to this podcast on a Friday night and 9 30. Oh honey, I want to meet you.
Speaker 1:But don't worry, you have to listen through the whole show so you don't miss the word of the week. But when? I will tell you when it does come up. It's hard to miss. It's hard to make quite a ruckus.
Speaker 2:Yes, If you don't know what the word is. By the time this shows over and you really weren't your fellow and we know exactly when they fall asleep.
Speaker 3:It was two weeks ago. What pants. When it went off.
Speaker 1:What happened? When you pay, you got to get some, you got pant issues All right, let's move on to last Tuesday's council meeting. You are Monday. We did the podcast gender. We were here sitting here the last Monday night, so we skip right over that bad time, same bad channel.
Speaker 2:That indeed last, last Tuesday, to have cast me and it was funny I talked about in our podcast or had an item on the agenda about arts and public places at the airport and I said why does he need to have it? Who is going to get up and talk negative about that? You know that's a good thing. And then, of course, what happened? One speaker and he got up and says not a good idea.
Speaker 1:But you thought he had a valid point.
Speaker 2:The reason he has. The reason he did which I thought, okay, I will, at least I respect the opinion was he said. Well, you know, this is the public's paying for that, even though actually the developer pays. But you know, it's kind of public money through grants and doing it for free.
Speaker 2:And. But yet it's supposed to be art in public places, but if it's in a security or a secure area where you have to have an airline ticket to get into, the public really can't see it then and what's the public wants to see? Whatever that piece of artwork is, I don't know what it's going to be, that we haven't made decisions yet, but I understand this point that you know there are people that will not be able to see that.
Speaker 1:They have big windows on the outside of the building and people can look in the window and see it.
Speaker 2:Well, it's in the security area, so all right, you know.
Speaker 3:Did you notice how long that agenda item?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought. I thought I was shooting in five minutes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it was like an hour. Yeah, I. That's what happens when you get five council members talking, oh, plus city attorney, because he had to give his 21 cents worth, and then the city manager and then the people from planning.
Speaker 1:So they weren't able to respond to this person's thing. This is just their comment, public comment, and they're going to get a minute.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they talked about it, they did, but the thing that they brought up, which I thought was very interesting as they started talking about the ritzy- Not the cracker or the hotel. The regional, the termosional transportation thing and the big building. When you always make a right to go to Denny's and McDonald's, you go straight ahead into the parking structure.
Speaker 1:Well, that is the ritzy parking garage with all those really bright lights that you can see from orbit from everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's for buses and taxis and rental cars, and that's about it.
Speaker 3:Well, you know why they said in the beginning, said about those bright lights, they had some very expensive cars up there that they wanted to have lit up, so that's what they, and when I lived on the hill I could see them.
Speaker 2:So, so my house instead of, you know, hiring a security guard or two to patrol around, let's turn all the lights on and pay a huge electric bill. And you know what? I got a thing that they want to go steal something. Yeah, they're just doing the light because they won't nowadays, won't get prosecuted.
Speaker 1:Well, they were going to put art. It was for some time now. They're supposed to put some art up on that. They talked about.
Speaker 2:They said well, you know, we haven't. We haven't still yet installed the artwork on the ritzy. Yet I'm going wait a second. Rissy was was dedicated back in June of 2014. So they've had 10 years. But artwork on the right you know, not done it yet.
Speaker 3:I will say that I know how the airport works. They work under a JPA stands for Joint.
Speaker 1:Ours authority.
Speaker 3:Ours authority, authority or agreement authority Authority JPA yeah. Of Burbank, glendale, pasadena. Those three cities have to make decisions. Then it comes back to Burbank, and then it goes to the public.
Speaker 2:Let's try this year one Burbank, and decide your two. Glendale can decide your three, pasadena can decide your one, burbank and decide your two.
Speaker 1:Burbank and Glendale can decide your three, burbank and Pasadena can decide there you go what I'm saying? Airports in Burbank Airports should get a. Burbank should get a vote every time More.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been 10 years Now.
Speaker 1:I yeah, I'm sorry, there's no excuse and they're going to have the replacement terminal done in two.
Speaker 2:Yes, they've dropped the ball in that completely. Once again, that's not off, it's our. If it's our city, that's off the ball, for it's our park and recreation apartment, I don't know somebody else. The ball.
Speaker 1:I'm just hoping that whatever art they install on the outside of the building will block some of those idiots lights.
Speaker 2:Yes, right.
Speaker 1:Or it'll be all back.
Speaker 3:Well, actually, those people that will be living where fries is, that's where that artworks going. They're going to be looking at it.
Speaker 2:Well, I know this. In 10 years, due to the cost, whatever they're going to do is probably quadruple. So they'll probably have students from Red Heart Elementary go over there and draw on the side of the building.
Speaker 1:But it was hard elementary.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, my heart. Yes, I forgot our school board members and nonbelievers. School board members don't know that they actually are in Burbank and Moving on.
Speaker 3:I'm looking into that. Moving on.
Speaker 2:So, anyhow, they also talked about about bus and metro stations and Burbank kind of said well, you know, metro is kind of supposed to pay for that and this and that. You know, once again, why don't we just all work together and get some artwork and all these things? I know, I know they're really good at getting ads on those things. They don't seem to be very slow doing that.
Speaker 3:So Well, the Metro, you know, is hurting for money right now.
Speaker 2:So yeah, well, some more ads right.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, let's move on. Wednesday was pretty much a quiet day, but Thursday Thursday Thursday Thursday I was up early Thursday.
Speaker 1:I was up Thursday. Well, if they were listening anybody was listening to last week's show they'd know what was happening on Thursday.
Speaker 2:Thursday we had, we had something great happen.
Speaker 3:History.
Speaker 2:We had the groundbreaking for the new airport Terminal Terminal.
Speaker 3:Do I feel the earth moving?
Speaker 1:under your feet.
Speaker 3:Are we breaking ground?
Speaker 1:Woo, so oh, we're in Southern California. It could be about anything.
Speaker 2:It's been what? 20 years of promises and this and that, how long Everything else and how long we finally have broken ground on it, which means we will have an airport terminal within, they said, two years, which is two years before the Olympics. So I'll time to work the bugs out. Well, they've been 28.
Speaker 1:They say the terminal should be done in 2026, which will give them some time to work the bugs out before the Olympics.
Speaker 3:So In fact invited everybody Except Everybody, except for the public. Well, no, no, no, no, no For opening of the new terminal October 2026.
Speaker 2:Why, they said I don't think they have a really. They have a month. They have a month already. They're going to have it Open by no 2026. I've seen they already have the month picked out. Don't be any delays or won't be any problems.
Speaker 3:Well, that's what Frank Miller said up there on that stage. You guaranteed it. And you know what I will say. I've been to a lot of groundbreaking with a lot of shovels. I saw some pretty big. You know pretty big, pretty big.
Speaker 1:You see, well, he did. He it's shovels and it's politics, so it must be poo, a lot of poo there were some mighty big land movers out there moving a ton of dirt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're already moving dirt and clearing the, so we're not talking about the people, the shelves, we're talking about the equipment out there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you would think you would think at a groundbreaking at an airport, the noise from the airplanes coming and going. No, they had to shut the tractors down so you could hear the speakers.
Speaker 2:What was kind of funny is we pulled up and I said I said to Ross, I go hey, look, well, they've got all this cleared out and they've left all the trees, I guess, going to work around them. Oh, it's nice, it were trees. You know that we're leaving when it's over. There's a tractor out there pulling all the trees out of the ground and throwing them into the neighbor.
Speaker 1:They're going to build into a dumpster around the existing trees.
Speaker 2:It was kind of funny that they all of a sudden I thought, oh, I'm going to say that they'll probably plant new ones. I think if you take it, they have to replace the same number.
Speaker 3:But what's what I? You know, I've been to a ton of these things and they're really looking at it. You've been at a ton of airport terminal.
Speaker 1:Well, he was at the ground number at the groundbreaking for Lockheed Air Terminal 1930.
Speaker 3:Do you recall Avion? Avion, amazing, amazing, what they've done. Now that's what do they call that type of construction Private? No, no, no, a lean tilt up. Tilt up, so it goes quick. Oh, it went quick, but that's airport terminal. They guaranteed we will have a ribbon cutting October 1st 2020. Whether it's ready or not they're going to cut a ribbon out there.
Speaker 3:Might be in front of a dirt lot, but what, if you think about it, they can work out there 24 hours a day. There's nothing, there's no houses, that they're going to be annoying airplanes land.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward to it. I'm hopeful that they finish on time and all that, but I can't wait to see the finished oh, I know the finished product.
Speaker 3:And it was kind of a nice ribbon cutting. There were, you know, I saw a ton of city officials, in fact Don Brown, one of our former police lieutenants and a motor officer who was on the planning board for years and then it became an airport commissioner. He was out there and but over them, and Emily Gabaletti and just telemontas.
Speaker 1:Name dropper.
Speaker 3:Well, I got to.
Speaker 2:Well, all I can say is it's about time. We're very happy that they finally have got to what they need to be. It's it's a lot of grants and funding. It's like one point two, five billion dollars.
Speaker 1:None of it's coming. Yeah, the city is not a dime from the city.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not. It's funny how they always say that yeah. But you know, when the government gives you Half a half a billion dollars, the taxpayer is still paying for it. Half a billion dollars come from. It didn't come out of a Donald Trump's pocket.
Speaker 1:We're still paying for it in some roundabout way, don't worry.
Speaker 3:So is. So is what's his name? Johnny Begood or Johnny fellow when?
Speaker 1:does he?
Speaker 3:where's he from? I don't Iowa.
Speaker 1:I don't. But, now it's, he's a sound effect, the plunk.
Speaker 3:I was. He's helping pay.
Speaker 1:Somebody just walked into the door.
Speaker 3:He's helped. He's helped paying for this airport.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're a Ross.
Speaker 3:Oh Lordy B.
Speaker 2:Have you got to come up with a? Is he from Trump?
Speaker 1:Is that where it is Nevada?
Speaker 3:Ho Dunk, ho Dunk, but I'm Some more back in Toonville or toonville, just blame your tight pants. But I'll tell you, you know, he's helping pay for our.
Speaker 2:You know what folks does game burden this. Okay, it'll be.
Speaker 3:We're looking forward to it 14 gates?
Speaker 2:Wait, not international. You can. You'll still be able to walk to the plane. Yes, they want to call the replacement terminal, but it's yeah, they're replacing it with a new terminal. I don't know why there's that's a sticking point for them, you know, because it's so scary.
Speaker 1:People say, oh, you're putting new terminals.
Speaker 2:There's gonna be 45 gates of international travel. I'm going to read the memo Loudening here you know.
Speaker 1:Check. Check Out the story and the video at my Burbankcom and answer all your questions.
Speaker 3:You stole my line. It's in the notes, where that's supposed to be my line, where. Oh, maybe I just made it read. No, if you want to read the story, we did a story on my Burbank and our editor in chief, dr Sherwood, put together a hell of a video. I mean, ashley did a video at the groundbreaking, did a fantastic job and it was.
Speaker 2:It's only four minutes long. You have time. You have four minutes.
Speaker 1:Please go look at it and we'll probably answer the majority of the questions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and what. You can see what the airport used to be, how it was named united in the very beginning in 1930s, and then changed to Lockheed.
Speaker 1:Okay, so look. In a four minutes you managed to go from a look back to a look ahead.
Speaker 2:You see some of the old terminals. They look like you can see the airfields and parking and all that. So there's not there.
Speaker 3:So hopefully If you're a lifelong Burbank resident and a lot of people that have lived here for years worked at Lockheed. That's what brought him to Burbank and to see Lockheed.
Speaker 1:And then there was people who complained about the airplane noise and wonder why they put an airport so close to their house.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and which was here first, exactly that's why the houses were there. Yep First place. So if you can't tell, I'm overjoyed.
Speaker 2:I have watched, I have listened and by the way, something that I realized I'm making the video was Bob Hope Airport is still the legal name of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a surprise.
Speaker 2:The video branded and didn't know that it's like a name on there. It is not officially I would be right here for that but the official.
Speaker 1:The aviation FAA abbreviation for the airport. You are and will always be B. You are. Yeah, it doesn't matter what's on the front of the building.
Speaker 2:You are, you know why. Why Z is. You may know it's a rush song and they came up with the name of the rush song YYZ because when they flew to Toronto, where they're from, they'd always hear that code, the Morse code of the YYZ, and they started that song with that code and they named the song YYZ.
Speaker 1:What was the Morse code for?
Speaker 2:It's a code, they have the planes pattern or something, but you know, but I'm not sure exactly, but it's.
Speaker 1:So aviation related.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely so. Are you? Rush fans out there? That's where YYZ came from.
Speaker 1:I was never been a rush fan, but I did have a professor in college that claimed to have discovered them on American radio. First played them on American radio.
Speaker 2:That'd be early 70s.
Speaker 3:So if you wanted to see the progress of anybody. You could go out there the little tour I gave you guys. Drive in the avion, and what street is that you?
Speaker 1:enter. I don't know, but don't go looking for Randy's donuts, because you won't find it.
Speaker 2:We're going to talk about it later in the show too.
Speaker 1:Good old Randy's. Are they going to have like a time lapse camera on the construction?
Speaker 2:We were going to talk about that. I suggest Ross. He goes out every week and takes a picture.
Speaker 1:He just camps out there on a roof.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go, I think we have to replace the film. We take a picture once a week for 100 straight weeks. I think we'd have a good little time lapse.
Speaker 1:I think so too.
Speaker 3:You know it just marks the spot. I have always been intrigued watching airplanes take off. You know that C5A, some of the big planes. But when my son was young I'd sit at the end of the runway and I've talked to more parents that have kids that have sat on Van Oan and just watched.
Speaker 2:Well, thank God you weren't sitting on a hallway on a rainy night and then got a PSA plane right in your lap.
Speaker 1:For history's sake, where this new replacement terminal is going.
Speaker 3:Those C5As were carrying top secret aircraft that were built right here in the room Right where the new terminal is going In fact my buddy Mike, who was a security officer at the airport for years, that's where their substation was, right where the terminal is now. It just kind of you know.
Speaker 2:The other day I was actually researching the video. I went on YouTube and there's actually I typed in about airports. They have live feeds from airports all over the country Heathrow in New York, lax live feed and there's people there shooting every landing and take off to the runways and give you commentary.
Speaker 2:And here's the thing I went on the flight tracker 24 which we use for our tracking. I went to Heathrow and because they have a lot of wind and they kind of want to watch the planes, kind of they call Crab as they come in and they go sideways oh with crosswind. And the last time they turned straight. And so I went to the flight tracker 24 and actually you can see exactly the plane landing or taking off, exactly where it is on that runway. I mean, it's live, live.
Speaker 3:Well, ask Greg Gurling when it's going, how many times he sat next to in and out burger at LAX looking at airplanes?
Speaker 1:Well, that too. But there's an outfit. They're hugely popular on YouTube now. It's airline videos and they do almost daily live broadcasts from a rooftop on a hotel next to LAX Get all the arrivals, departures, give you information about the different aircraft and stuff, and they've developed quite a following. They even have their broadcasts, but they also have their behind the scenes live channel that shows how they're doing their thing.
Speaker 3:It's just fascinating.
Speaker 1:How do those?
Speaker 3:Everybody loves aviation With all those planes, with all those people and all that metal and all that baggage, get the hell off the ground. You gotta flap their wings really hard. You know my friend Bill Hartenstein. I asked him who is an airplane? Hust off Billy. Hust off Billy, he said. When you're driving down the freeway, roll down your window and put your arm out and you will feel that wind and you have flaps on that jet and that'll make it, it's aerodynamics, a little less than an aerodynamics.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure what country it's in, but where you can stand on the beach right with a runway and when the plane goes to take off. I'm so excited you watch I will be there in March.
Speaker 1:You watch 50 people in the Caribbean At St.
Speaker 2:Martin, exactly. And then all of a sudden you see 50 people go flying back into the ocean when that plane throttles up.
Speaker 1:I am. What's funny is doing a Caribbean cruise in March with some friends, but I wanted an itinerary that stopped in St Martin because I want to go to that beach. We want some video. Well, I think what I'm going to do, instead of doing an excursion which is just to stop at the beach, is I'm just going to take a cab and spend the whole day on the beach and just get as many planes coming and going.
Speaker 2:You have planes landing over your head by 20 feet over your head.
Speaker 1:Oh, the big ones, barely clear at the fence, like the C-5s leaving Burbank in the day. These things are coming in over the beach and you swear you could reach up and touch the landing gear.
Speaker 2:And when they take off, they're right by you, you know. All of a sudden they gear up.
Speaker 1:Well, you see videos all over YouTube when the bigger planes rev up to take off away from the beach, people get blown into the water and all that.
Speaker 3:It's just fascinating To me and I know a lot of followers will relate, listen to, you know, being here in Burbank the C-5A or even some of these other planes. It's just we are so fortunate to have the airport here, you know, and be able to watch and see.
Speaker 1:I watched there years ago and I just love the behind the scenes stuff. It was great, great.
Speaker 2:Well, so that's the airport terminal coming to a overhead airspace near you when the planes start taking off again sometime in 2026. And, by the way, they are not allowed to take off on a easterly on the easterly runway, correct, because the FAA has said that's too dangerous.
Speaker 3:And when they do a couple of them do? I know it from where I?
Speaker 2:live the big jets. Yeah, the big jets, they're the smaller ones. I mean no, no, no, the big jets do too.
Speaker 3:Like the seven, yep, seven, three, seven, oh yeah, and when they fly over my house, it's very rare that they do Very rare very rare.
Speaker 1:I have a shoulder. There's something. If there's a runway, Well, you're talking on 33 and they're a reverse option going out on eight Eight.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, that's rare and I'll say, yeah, you know it, I know it, and I'll run to my computer and go what the hell was that?
Speaker 2:Close down side, because you might get hit by a door or something.
Speaker 1:I can always tell when they're on reverse ops, because they make their left turn to get to runway 33 right over the neighborhood, over here by Warner Brothers, the media district adjacent.
Speaker 2:Well, I tell you, that's how I know the Santa Ana winds are up, because the Santa Ana winds are blowing. They can't move over this way.
Speaker 3:I gotta go the other direction, and I'm such a we listen to a million. You know law enforcement, radios fire. I have a dedicated radio for air traffic and where I live up in the hill, I can listen to the tower, not in the hill.
Speaker 3:On the hill. I can listen to the tower and I can listen to ground and when you can hear the pilot talking to the guy on the ground, we need a case of water or whatever. It's so fascinating At three in the four in the morning when UPS and FedEx land and they hit their rear, their thrusters or whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, they're louder landing than they are taken off. Oh, they are, and I can hear it.
Speaker 2:It's funny because people on the hill will hear that because the sound walls will be good for the people on the flat land Right. They go right over the sound wall People on the hill, we get it.
Speaker 1:I used to hear the planes hitting the brakes when I lived on the hill, like I was in my front yard. But we digress everybody, oh we do we're going to an uneventful weekend 27th and 28th it looks like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, actually we're, yeah, an event for the rest of the week, so I can do this, take a break and have ourselves a commercial. So we will be back in about 30 seconds.
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Speaker 2:Hey, we're back Burbank. Greg Sherwood here, along with Greg Durling, still here, and, of course, the infamous Ross Benson.
Speaker 3:Hello.
Speaker 1:We can't forget our mascot, who I had up for some of that spot and everybody thought he was saying the words.
Speaker 2:Here he is that. Right there we have the Dodger. Hey, dodger, hey, dodge. You calling me Is that famous.
Speaker 1:Oh, did I miss my cue.
Speaker 2:Let me see my backside.
Speaker 1:Big, big stretch, dodger, Big stretch. There you are, oh, good boy here he is. There you are, dodger. All right, busy Monday. Busy busy Monday 30th. Oh, that's 29th, sorry.
Speaker 2:One thing I always bitch about is how many meetings they have Like potty mouth, how many meetings they have at the same time on a Monday, right? Or is this Monday no meetings?
Speaker 4:at all.
Speaker 2:So somebody in Burbank figure this out?
Speaker 1:I mean even the mayor was on board with this concept, are we?
Speaker 2:asking our city officials to actually walk in Chugum or something. I mean, why would you have four meetings on one day and no meetings on another day? I don't say well, it's because it's on Mondays. Well, this is a Monday we're talking about. Why not make it the last Monday of every month?
Speaker 1:I figured it out. I know why they don't have any meetings tonight.
Speaker 2:Why is that?
Speaker 1:They're all watching us live. Ah, they're all at home eating popcorn wrapped in a blanket, watching us mess up and trip over ourselves here.
Speaker 3:I thought Kmart might have a sale on.
Speaker 2:Is that why the ratings are going to go down Podcasts? Is that why the ratings are going to go down so much next month or next week, when they have four meetings again on the same night?
Speaker 1:Yeah, while the recording listening numbers will go up, though. Yeah. So nothing on Monday, nothing tonight, nothing tonight.
Speaker 2:Nothing at all.
Speaker 1:It was just one of those days. It was a quiet night at City Hall.
Speaker 3:I know we have those, but I that's the one where the crickets are climbing around and chirp, chirp. Oh yes, there they are. They're pretty quick with those Great from.
Speaker 2:Council Chambers. Quick drama grow over here. So on Tuesday we have another Councilor. Two weeks in a row we have a Council meeting, Wow. So which is?
Speaker 1:Starting a trend here.
Speaker 2:At 6 pm at City Hall tomorrow and at they're honoring the YP and International Holocaust Remembrance Day. So, Ross, why don't you tell us all about both of those?
Speaker 3:I guess I did put something on the page today.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, YP stands for Young Professionals. They're honoring them. Five years They've been in operation and they have Ryan Chatterton. There is Great outfit. Oh, it is. The guys are fantastic group of young professionals. They started five years ago and they've accomplished a lot. I know, Greg, they've helped. You did an event that they did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, helped out they helped out at a big event at Johnny Carson Park, right.
Speaker 3:And they helped us at Holiday in the Park and so forth. So the city is honoring them. And then also tomorrow is, or yesterday it was a Saturday it was International Holocaust Remembrance Day. Nobody will ever forget what happened years ago.
Speaker 2:You've been from the Jewish faith. I know it's more important to you, so I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 1:And unfortunately it's a current event again. Yeah, and it's in a different way, slightly different, but it's in the news again.
Speaker 2:So sad Yep.
Speaker 3:Yep, but other things you know. The agenda wasn't that long.
Speaker 2:Well, it wasn't that long, but there's a lot in the agenda actually. Yeah, a lot of things going on. So one of the things in the Consent Agenda but I thought I was just bringing it up to let people know is that the McCaberidge Park pool, what the heck was that?
Speaker 1:Did I say the word pool? Pool Like a swimming pool, I guess? Oh.
Speaker 3:The cement pond. That was in my notes. Oh, it was a surprise.
Speaker 2:Oh Surprise surprise, surprise, there we go.
Speaker 1:So what does that horn mean, craig?
Speaker 2:What it means. The word of the week is pool.
Speaker 1:Pool. I thought it would make it a smaller word, or L.
Speaker 2:So people wouldn't maybe misspell or something. They should.
Speaker 1:It's a one syllable One syllable One.
Speaker 2:Syllable One syllable Four letters. So send the word pool on the subject line into winners at MyBrivingcom or contest at MyBrivingcom.
Speaker 1:Either one, I'll get it, either because the previous week we've given contests. But either we'll get to the same place.
Speaker 2:And we'll put you in the hopper and pull somebody's name out and they'll get a $25 gift certificate to Hill Street Cafe next week. Oh me.
Speaker 3:You're a Dodger player by that last name, pool yeah.
Speaker 1:Pool, pool, pool holes, pool holes yeah, nice close. Though that was multi-syllabic, I tried yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, you do.
Speaker 1:All right, so that's the word of the week.
Speaker 2:Let me. I thought you'd throw a couple things about. You know McKay and Wiespark pool out there. What?
Speaker 3:Oh there you go Is that automatic now.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, the work's gonna start in February and it can be completed in April. My goodness.
Speaker 1:Is this a new pool or a replacement pool? No, they say and where are they gonna put the art At the bottom of?
Speaker 2:the pool. Yes, they probably will Tell the people the secret about the current pool, Craig. The pool is 11,000 square feet and holds 397,000 gallons of water. That is a lot of water.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's 2.5 feet deep in the shallow end, five feet deep in the center and 12 feet deep in the diving area, and when it's set up for 50-meter swim competitions, they can have actually nine swimming lanes. But as Ross and I know from over the years, every day when the pool opens, every year for summer, there's a place, you know what. I do not know if they're gonna still have that place or not, but there's a place you can go down and shoot pictures.
Speaker 1:Oh, a window underwater.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, for many years I went down there. I'd go buy a new sign at local hardware store we're open, and I'd have some kid go under there and hold the sign with a mask and a snorkel and I'd be shooting. One year I had a Nikonos, which is a waterproof camera. Try to with that, but that's what that well is for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we stopped doing it when Ross said wait, stay there, I gotta get my light ring. Wait, stay there, I gotta get my light ring.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not ready yet. Hold on, go back a little further, a little closer left right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the kid ran out of air, so it was a. It was you know.
Speaker 1:Terrible, tragic, tragic. Parents have notified everything. A great picture.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was colorful.
Speaker 2:Now they're also going to approve the code of conduct for council members, and it's mostly about election conflict, social media, that type of thing. They're also gonna put down that they cannot remove agenda items from joint meetings without the council's consent and electronic devices used in meetings adhered to the Brown Act, which means instead of texting somebody on their phone or on their computer, it's public, or even if they Google something on their phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can actually. You can do a public record request and ask for what was texted. What was? That's all part of a legal meeting now, so it always has been, but so I'm assuming all the council members have city phones?
Speaker 1:then no, they do not. They do not, no, oh.
Speaker 2:Well it might soon. Then when I read through this, you know it was sad. Every part of this was common sense and we have to have I think it's a 30 page document of common sense items for our city council people to follow.
Speaker 1:So shame you have when you have to codify common sense.
Speaker 3:Well, I was just gonna say you know, I know you can't. There's no class that I attended at high school how to be a mayor, how to be a city council member. But nowadays, with our social media, that yeah, but there's also.
Speaker 1:Common sense there's a lack of common sense, though, but I you know what I think some council members, if you're an elected official.
Speaker 2:You would think that you know, gee, it's not okay to put my election stuff on my, you know, on my social media that's I use for official city business. Anyhow, it's all spelled out from now. Hopefully there will be.
Speaker 1:There'll be no questions now.
Speaker 2:Well, but you know, there was really no. There's no punishments on there. If they, there was really no punishments on there.
Speaker 3:Well, wait till somebody brings, does a, you know.
Speaker 1:Records request. Records request yeah.
Speaker 3:And see that they're watching. You know, the Glendale Bozo League during a council meeting. But you know, years ago their cell phone used to sit next to them. But this council and it is the first council that I recall watching the council members all have their laptops in front of them and to me that is really Well, I think the reason they're doing that, though, is they're printing out hard copies of everything, so they're not wasting paper, they're doing electronic.
Speaker 1:But in theory, if somebody wants to, if that's a personal laptop and not a city laptop and they're not segregating information, anything on that laptop could be discoverable.
Speaker 3:Yes, yep, and to me that's where.
Speaker 2:And we've got a couple, just a couple of those dad files left, not like the old days, and there's a half done.
Speaker 3:Takes one.
Speaker 2:But one person's gonna figure out. Oh, I can find out everything on this guy's phone or on this guy's laptop, or so.
Speaker 3:Nowadays, you know they talk about cameras everywhere. You're watching the council member. You could see pretty well what they're doing.
Speaker 1:Have they addressed or are they addressing putting in some wording into the municipal code how to remove or unseat a mayor?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:They're not addressing that one yet.
Speaker 2:No, they're not addressing that one yet, okay, so.
Speaker 1:Probably in the works though somewhere, right?
Speaker 3:Well, that was the original idea of why they came up with this code.
Speaker 2:You know what. I didn't see that I could be wrong. I didn't see anything about what's the yeah? How do you censor somebody? How?
Speaker 1:do you? It was all, because I remember it all coming up kind of at the same time, the same sentence.
Speaker 2:You know about the conduct, the one, time I started to talk about it was who was our former mayor who was caught with North Hobbit boys and all that during the Matthew Vevico. Casey Murphy, casey Murphy. And she said, well, I'll just work from home. And they started to say, wait, this is. And then she resigned. So once she resigned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're still running the city.
Speaker 2:They stopped. They stopped, you know, looking into it which was probably a mistake back then. They should have continued the process.
Speaker 1:So in case that happened again, they would have had a couple instances, although they're rare. Where they needed, they probably should have worked this out.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, in social media is moving so rapidly you can't keep up, obviously, Right, and it's something every year. They almost have to go over this policy in January because we don't know what we're gonna have in.
Speaker 2:June or July. And by the way, just so everybody knows, if somebody's using their phone or computer in a police commission meeting, a planning board meeting, a parking rack, that's all under Brown Act, right, that's all public stuff. And every meeting that falls under the Brown Act, every device they're using during that meeting, is part of the-.
Speaker 1:Anything else that's on that device. Hey, very well be discoverable.
Speaker 2:And, by the way, if you think, when you text something and then you go delete the text, guess what?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. Nothing gets deleted in our world, Well.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 2:Okay, what else are we coming up? We have the having a public hearing to extended development agreement for the for media offices, studio building buildings. It's on the site. Now I'm gonna for you guys who used to be, who are older in Burbank, who understand it, this is used to be where the driving range was. Back in the day. There was a driving range right at St Joseph's Hospital and Worth took it over and they built their buildings there.
Speaker 3:Were they the iceberg building? No well, the iceberg is behind the old NBC.
Speaker 2:The point, the park Not the point, the park building, yeah, anyhow, they're gonna extend the development agreement on that piece of property. So if they want I think they didn't you say what someone said they wanted to do- a second build on it.
Speaker 3:He is gonna do a second, yes, when they originally did that project. There's two towers.
Speaker 2:Right, he did one. He moved in 1997. So it's been close to 20 years.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been longer than the art on the parking structure.
Speaker 2:But not as long as the new airport terminal.
Speaker 3:But what I was told his plan was Jeff Worth, and a lot of things have changed, the whole agreement with Warner Brothers and all that. When he originally did that, his plan was get 90% occupancy in the first tower and then he'd do the second tower. Well, he's had that, but then we also had a pandemic, we had COVID, so that has delayed. One of these days we'll see another, you know what's like the holiday in years ago.
Speaker 2:Right started with one and then two. They actually had planned for three at one time.
Speaker 3:Yep over on town yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, never happened. The third one never happened. That's called the what the Burbank.
Speaker 3:Burbank Hotel.
Speaker 2:Hotel. Now All they in abandon ship there.
Speaker 1:What the heck is a Golden State specific plan mobility?
Speaker 2:Well, that's, that is the version of the media, this plan, which you know, the media district plan. Well, they have a Golden State plan which is up near the word salad.
Speaker 1:That's all that is. Oh yeah does it mean? What is it?
Speaker 2:Well, they have the rancho plan.
Speaker 2:They've got the well, that's what they got the Golden State way with the rancho plan Is that with ranch dressing, yes, lord anyhow they're going to put the they're talking about it's the airport area, it's up in around all the way between Buena Vista and San Fernando and down to either Victor Van Owen, and they're having walking and now bus tours to talk about mobility and all these things. And you know, to me it's that's a very I don't know what they're going to be able to do there. They're talking about buses and transportation and it's like, is it about traffic flow or traffic flow and everything?
Speaker 3:You also have to think a lot of those buildings that were up in that Golden State where air aircraft Related years ago I mean warehouses and manufacturing. Well, a lot of those manufacturing because we're not building airplanes anymore are changing purposes.
Speaker 2:So that's what they have to go through and change and here's that I which, once again, and it was about the perfect 2035 plan, which I think is ridiculous because, but they made that plan, you know, 15 years ago. They had no idea how things were progressing. You know, 35 year, 25 years and there's gonna be a 25 year plan should be a 10 year plan the most. But anyhow, they're talking high-speed rail possibly, and Part of this plan is, well, you know, we have our the metro station, hot high-speed. Well, I've actually heard, and I can't tell you where and I could be wrong but they may phase out that metro link station that's on Van Olin and Somehow transfer to the one on San Fernando, the new terminal. Now, if they do that, you know where's the high-speed rail station even gonna go? They don't know yet.
Speaker 1:They haven't bought the land, they haven't made the route yet and Can we get the elevators working in this in the downtown Burbank first? We figured that out, oh you talk about high-speed rails, zipping through this oh.
Speaker 2:I just think you know they're gonna sit here and have all you know. They have an outside company coming in and getting you know community input and all these things and talk about density to neighborhoods and you know I, once again, when they had to Burbank 2035 plan, there was no such thing as SB 9 and SB 35 and all these.
Speaker 1:Few more roadblocks in the yeah in the way now.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm here to drive Model T's. Back then I think we developed that plan, but Ross Model T.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I had one. It was a bumpy ride, wasn't it yeah?
Speaker 3:What of it? But I will say, you know, drive through that neighborhood and it's just kind of.
Speaker 2:Again, if you're a lifelong Burbank resident, it's changed so much they were talking about protected bike lanes along Hollywood Way that were constructed as part of the Avion, and Avion's only a couple blocks. Oh, they're there. They're there, but right, they're nowhere else. Well, that was you were two blocks, you have a nice bike lane and you're back to finding your turn, your way for your life down the street.
Speaker 1:Right, I'd want to ride a bike through there.
Speaker 2:Anyway, oh my goodness, well that's why they?
Speaker 3:they're protected, they're raised and they're separated by balliards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but as soon as you pass the Avion project and get toward the airport, right. So rushed back into the other and you're in the lane of turning right to get into the airport. Perfect. Well, I'm wondering if they're thinking and then, of course, as you go to the bridge, the under crossing and there's cars trying to get to Van Owen, you have to cross through those right, that's weird stop sign coming off of Van Owen.
Speaker 2:And, of course, go under the bridge. And how much room is there for for two cars and a bike and going the same direction? Lots of questions, not much room valid valid questions. These are all things they want to talk, but they won't. They won't solve these problems. It's the way above their pay grades and and financial financials.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's the thing they want to get some input.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I give you input, fix the problem. But yeah, that's easy.
Speaker 1:He's okay.
Speaker 2:Now, here comes it. Here comes a. Here comes a big one which would be on. I Predict and I was wrong last time It'd be on a short one. It was. It was a long one, but I think this will be a long one. We're gonna talk about the ordinance on waste reduction.
Speaker 1:You mean single-use plastics single-use plastics sweeping reforms.
Speaker 2:Basically, if you are a restaurant In Burbank and you seat over 31 people, you must use 31 people or more. You must use reusable utensils. Now I Would like to know how many people Did it? Mcdonald's what's how much the seating capacity McDonald's? If McDonald's has, let's say, 35 seats inside, they have to use reusable silverware. They can't get away, they can't get out from doing it. So what's gonna happen, I think, is all these fast food restaurants either a but pay the fines, which I doubt they will be, but in silverware that means you have to get dishwashers and else, which I don't think they will or see, they'll probably take seating out and and get down to 30, the 30 seat limit.
Speaker 3:I thought that meeting that we went to, where they had several the restaurant owners.
Speaker 2:They said that they, if you have to put dishwashing Equipment in, they will extend the period but if you're the corporation McDonald's, you want to pay, to Pay for a dishwasher, pay to have the equipment. No, you'll just take seats out. I don't know but and.
Speaker 1:Put dishwashers in there, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I wonder how many people's Burger King sits and how many McDonald's sits, and I know I like. There's no exemption. Exemption for these restaurants.
Speaker 1:Everybody's under the same set of rules and there's and there's no association or yes, you're representing them or a lobby representing them there argue this there are. We'll find out on Tuesday.
Speaker 3:Won't we Well there are a group of her bank. There's California restaurant. There's there is organizations. Okay, I think there'd be somebody representing the industry and Kevin McCarney, who owns Poughkeet Omos, formerly was president of that association, but they have gotten the the big restaurants here in town Portos, tequila's, granada's and I cannot, as Barragans, a couple of the big ones.
Speaker 1:Those are heavy hitters in town.
Speaker 3:They are yeah, and they are gonna be a council speaking because they you got to remember, and I feel for these people they're not often paid busboys twenty dollars.
Speaker 1:You're now getting slapped with this you know Well, they're gonna start running businesses out of town, exactly, or out of the state, if this is all. This is all state mandated, probably, well.
Speaker 2:It's going to be a verbase ahead of the curve on this.
Speaker 1:You know this is what they choose to be ahead of the curve, talking silverware.
Speaker 2:We're talking about Single use plastic such as you know, the straws forks, knives, spoons, yeah the little cup and you got to go food. You know the little cups that you put the extra sour cream in or something like guacamole. I still have my little mess kit from when.
Speaker 1:I was in Cub Scouts with the fork knife, the metal that all ones of those bring that into the restaurants with me actually, you know, somebody gave me as a gift You're so go, set a plastic and I carried them for a while.
Speaker 3:Reusable utensils, yeah, and you put them back in a little container, wash them or wipe them down and you have your own, and they're also good straw.
Speaker 1:I bring those to McDonald's.
Speaker 2:They're also going to ban the use of water bottles at city events. The city cannot single use single use, single use use water bottles at events, so that you can't do it by a bottle of water, need to bring your own container. I'm sure they'll have filling stations and all that, but this is a sweeping, a Sweeping thing here. This is not going to be a a lot of conversation about it.
Speaker 2:Give me a lot of fallout financially it's gonna be a pain in the aster, everybody. But you know what, if we don't do things to protect our you know, to protect our planet, and we don't, we don't start making those accommodations now, we're gonna wait in there to 30 or 40 years, and I mean that, that plastic let it be somebody else's problem. I saw it's getting I report that everybody right now in their in their blood system has micro plastics in their bodies. You know, and that.
Speaker 1:Well, this is Los Angeles, so there's many people with a lot more plastic in their body. Yes, and that. It must be right.
Speaker 3:They're what they're finding from this single use plastic and the plastic that is getting into our system. It's scary.
Speaker 1:Well, like they even say, as we all hold up our single use plastic bottles that you know you leave. How many people have these in their cars? And the cup holder is sitting on the seat, sitting in the sun, you know, is the the chemicals from the plastic? You know they say leech, leech into the water you drink. And if you reheat your food leftovers in that styrofoam container, are the chemicals going into your food as you heat it up?
Speaker 3:Well, that brings you to the point. A lot of companies give away those plastic bottles. There's still plastic, you know well, I think it's gonna.
Speaker 2:You know, we'll uh, we'll watch and see what comes up. I think, um, it'll be somewhat controversial to a point. We'll see what the council decides. I know this has come before. Um, the state ability commission did not like how it was worded, did not like how it was presented and asked to have it come back to the council, listens to them, sent it back to them. They had more, more hearings, they brought in public forums and they've come now with the wording that hopefully People can agree to.
Speaker 3:So did I tell you I noticed that one of the commission meetings I was watching your favorite Sustainability commission, no, police commission they have given the commissioners so they don't have sitting on the dais this, they have a pitcher water, but I've seen they have given them metal Reusable, refillable. And who washes those?
Speaker 2:Well, you don't have a dishwasher in the city, do we know?
Speaker 3:but they're they're their own. They take them home and wash them, but that's what they're using now. The city has started with the commission.
Speaker 1:There they're they're at least giving the illusion that they're walking the walk.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Thank you, which is good.
Speaker 2:Well, I know dogs. They get a water bowl. It's a statement, because it never. All you do is just pour more water into it. They don't complain at all or need the uh, need it washed. So what do you about that Dodger?
Speaker 1:It is good with it.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, we'll. We'll let you know next week about what goes on there. I'm sure it's gonna be a lot. Also, they're gonna bring up and this is pretty much at the. The mayor's request is um, he's very passionate about this In ordinance about the prevention of human trafficking.
Speaker 1:We've talked about this on previous shows, right? Is this we talked about?
Speaker 2:this has been in the works last week because, uh, the mayor brought it up on his ask. The mayor Okay podcast we talked about it briefly.
Speaker 2:So now it's coming to the council, it's going to expand a list of business required to post under state law to include restaurants, community care facilities, skilled nursing facilities, gas stations, retail stores that sell food or household goods, shelters, primary reproductive sexual health service providers and garment manufacturing establishments. And one of the things that Ross said during our estimator podcast, which I thought was a great idea, is put one of these signs on the back of bathroom doors so when somebody goes in there and you know if they're being watched all the time. I when do you have when?
Speaker 2:you're in the stalls and you're in the stall and the door is shut and you see, it's the sign for you to call this number, if you know. I think that was a great idea.
Speaker 1:It is. And well, and the whole point of this is to is for people who may be being trafficked or feared they are being, traffic is give them a resource available to them somewhere in private, but they exactly, you know, we might not be watching.
Speaker 2:We just act as though that never happens. And now not in here in bourbon, I bet you. I bet you it happens far more and it's nice to the mayor's. Actually, you know, this is not just a national issue or international. This is also bourbon issue.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it isn't happen. Who's to say it can't be happening tomorrow? It can't help one person. Absolutely how much do we know about this? In theory, we don't know about this trafficking thing on a day-to-day basis, but because it could be happening, let's put that resource out there. We know it's happening.
Speaker 3:You know, zonta has done a lot of events here in bourbon and this is one of their big items that they they've had walks, they've had, uh, forums and discussions and it's people don't Like you said, kreg, you and I, you don't understand it, but people that are being trafficked, you know, in a lot of different ways. They don't know how to get out of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and hopefully we'll put in a couple languages too, so that you know definitely um, there's gonna be an update on the?
Speaker 2:uh landlord ad hoc roundtable Commission and meeting and Hopefully, the? Um. I'm a little suspect about all this because, um, um, number one, our landlord tenant commission, has no teeth. I don't even think they're a A brown act group, they're just kind of a group that meets. So, um, I think it's something that Uh, it'd be interesting if a couple council members are going to report back on it, but I Nothing's gonna happen. I just it's. It's more an eclipse service than anything else. Anyhow, any thoughts Ross?
Speaker 3:Well, you know, again I've been evicted. You know I had a landlord that flipped the house that I was living in and we all got, you know, kicked out and the landlord, tenant commission didn't do anything for me. So I don't have a ton of support for-.
Speaker 1:Are they even designed for that?
Speaker 3:That's what they're supposed to mediate. I will say one of the chairman of it. She called my landlord and he didn't wanna talk to her and I still had to go to court and so on and so forth. So it's unfortunate, but you know, we'll see. Like you said, doesn't have a lot of teeth.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, we will keep you up on that.
Speaker 3:Wednesday, the 31st, no meetings.
Speaker 1:Oh, we did. We covered landlord tenant. We got all that done. Wednesday, the 31st, once again, oh, it says. I'm reading it like once again yeah, you switch every camera there. Once again a night with no meetings. But it is the deadline to submit your ideas for the next year's Burbank Tournament of Roses Float. We talked about the dust hasn't even cleared from this year's.
Speaker 3:Well, we talked about it. When I brought it up, you guys said let's bring it up when it's due. Well, I saw today the Tournament of Roses and, it's unfortunate, their website where you can get to download the forms and all the rules and regulations. We're having a problem today, but Wednesday is the deadline If you want to submit, even on a napkin.
Speaker 1:Well, I was going to ask, if there are, how much does it actually take to submit A sketch on a napkin?
Speaker 3:I've seen floats that have started off on a napkin from.
Speaker 1:Bob's Big Boy. Well hey, the national anthem started on an envelope, right.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that they got started this early. I guess there is a lot involved in the timeline, but we figure, we just finished this year's.
Speaker 2:They announced the theme two weeks ago and now.
Speaker 3:Which I think I put in oh, best day ever, best day ever. That is the 2025 theme, best day ever. And you want to build a float, something with that in mind. And then if you realize, not only the companies that build floats, but the cities, they'll submit the same thing. They, burbank, will have a contest, they'll come up with, I think, four or five of their first, second, third, fourth design. They have to submit that to Pasadena. And if the Tournament of Roses, tournament of Roses, and then if Downey has the same exact design that makes sense.
Speaker 1:They don't want duplicate's out there.
Speaker 3:Right floats have to be different, so there's a lot when you say, wow, you know a couple weeks ago when we were talking about them stripping the float, this is how quick they move Right. We're not, we're at the end of the.
Speaker 1:I guess once they release the theme then everybody gets to work on their designs.
Speaker 3:Well now, and you think of bands that are coming from Australia and everywhere, and there's what if they pick my design?
Speaker 1:Do I get a? Is there a prize?
Speaker 2:or a pack, or yes, you get your name.
Speaker 3:Get to ride the float. No, you get the Burbank, you get seats in the grandstands. There's a lot of events. You go to A lot of events that Pasadena puts on but Burbank does too. But you have to come up with. You know, there's tons of stuff that once. But keep that in mind. Wednesday's the deadline.
Speaker 1:The what do you is that? Do they just go to the tournament of roses, yep, or Burbank Tournament of Roses or Burbank Tournament of Roses?
Speaker 3:Yep Burbank Tournament of Roses On their website. Hopefully it's up, so Google that. Yep Cool. And if I recall right, I think tomorrow night the tournament is having a fundraiser at Doghouse up on Hollywood Way that we went by and it'd be Tuesday, the 30th, I think, so being tomorrow Today being the 29th, so you can fill up on food and draw your design that your belly's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the most you make on those things are about $150. Usually I used to do this all the time for baseball. We'd have our dineouts and all these restaurants. You get 20% back of the money and it used to be $150, $200 or something you know, and there's just a lot of work to do it and they're. I mean, yeah, it's a free $200. But in the scheme of things, what that would cost $190,000 to put on.
Speaker 3:But you know what If you are ever on a nonprofit I was $25 will help you.
Speaker 1:I did not. You can always count on this guy to come up with a positive spin on something.
Speaker 2:I was just saying.
Speaker 3:You know, in the scheme of things, we're talking about the float theme and turning your design, and he has to bring up.
Speaker 2:I'm left-. Who brought up the dineout thing? It wasn't me. Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 1:All right, so get those float ideas in.
Speaker 2:Thursday Brick of Water and Power is gonna meet at 5pm. The Water and Power building.
Speaker 3:Can they eat there?
Speaker 2:Well, they always have a cared meal. Okay, I don't think for the public, though.
Speaker 1:And I hope the water and water and power is in reusable containers.
Speaker 3:Somebody should go find out. That'd be interesting. They have a table full of money.
Speaker 1:That would be interesting, the little ones especially. You need to do it twice as many.
Speaker 3:You can get these bottles in aluminum now.
Speaker 1:But if you refill this, you could reuse it.
Speaker 2:Right, it's just not metal. You need to bring a funnel with you then too.
Speaker 1:Sure, why not?
Speaker 2:They're gonna have a report in the finance, a finance reports update on their new fiscal budget. And I gotta tell you, when you try to read these Water and Power 97 pages, yeah, and it's all technical. I mean, I respect these Water and Power board members who understand all this stuff.
Speaker 1:I guess they do, as long as they know what it means.
Speaker 2:Therns and all these Engineers, yeah, so so when you wanna be on a, commission and these council members appoint these commissioners. Here's one that you read you better make sure that you know what you're talking about if you don't wanna get on that commission because it will not appoint you If you gave them a $25.
Speaker 1:You'll be left behind real quick to that main donation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you know what I did learn Reading one of those reports how many LED lights they have now on street lights and how many they have to replace, and how much using the old lights cost.
Speaker 2:How much, how many.
Speaker 1:I just wanna know how many years of your childhood you had to forget to make room for that useless information.
Speaker 2:In your day to be life.
Speaker 1:How useful is that? Next time I'll include that on here with people who like me, you could just stand under a street light and count, staring to the light and counting LED.
Speaker 2:It amazes me that you mean how many LED in a light, or how many LEDs Street lights.
Speaker 3:Street lights. They had a certain timeline that they wanted to replace them all.
Speaker 1:That meant each element in the light.
Speaker 2:But it gets me to Not even eye of that critical.
Speaker 3:That report breaks down houses, how many hours People have been without water. You know if there's a street, you know main break. All these those reports are crazy.
Speaker 1:So they're also talking about advanced metering infrastructure system, because they have a ton of water meters.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the thing Power meters they're not working. So they put these wifi water meters in or whatever. That yeah, and now they don't work. I know for a fact that the water meter here in our house we've had a guy from Water and Power show up, usually monthly and they go out to our curb and they open that little thing up and they read it. I go but don't you have that? Because they have, but the athletes don't work anymore. It's like geez.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, we talked about earlier the space, you know, the satellites going up. Well, this stuff only lasts so long and if you remember, people said a long time ago what are those weird antennas on the light, the?
Speaker 2:traffic lights. Well, that's what these are for.
Speaker 3:That's the repeaters for the meters in front of your house. Well, those meters, it's a big brother.
Speaker 2:that's what it is Now. The question is, do they have to replace those antennas also?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Actually they have to replace everything, right? Yeah, so they will render everything. I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2:It's gonna let you you know. Look at your water usage on your smartphone and so you have a leak.
Speaker 3:I just don't care that much, but if you have a leak, it'll say you know what you're using water 24 hours a day If it, if it's an abnormality or something, yeah, Well, I will tell you, last month we had some rain, so I turned off my sprinklers, like they suggest, and I forgot to Common sense, like we were just talking about, right.
Speaker 3:And, and I left it off for one month, my bill went down $29. And you tell me that. I will tell you. I don't believe that form or that envelope that they send me saying you save this much energy, but water wise, I'm gonna look at that and my gardener put it on for 20 minutes and you're only supposed to do it for 15 minutes. That'll save me some money.
Speaker 1:I will add on to that and in my personal experience, your gas bill. If you have a like a gas fireplace and there's a pilot light going all the time, when I had a townhouse up on the hill, I extinguished the pilot light, I turned it off and then there was a huge difference in my gas bill. I mean, you think that's a constant, constant flame going on on gas. That adds up real quick.
Speaker 2:We went. I took away the. We had central air and central heat with a furnace and whole thing, and I took the whole system out and I put an individual room Things that all work together. It's a new system and so I don't use gas anymore Anywhere and my bill went down from $210 a month to $14 a month.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amazing, but if gas keeps going up in price. If you think your gas bill is high, check out that pilot light in your fireplace or something. If you don't use the fireplace or only use it during the winter, relight it during the winter.
Speaker 3:Or you have a barbecue in your backyard that has a pilot.
Speaker 1:That's how it's going.
Speaker 2:That's the place we have actually used our gas. We have a fire pit in the backyard and we turn that, but that doesn't have a pilot light.
Speaker 3:We have to zap it. But you know what? How many older houses here, well, have that pilot light and you don't realize A lot of people don't even realize they have a flame burning in there Right. Constantly they wonder where their gas bill is Yep $100 a month or whatever it might be During the winter, when it was sky high, yep.
Speaker 2:We've heard there's some new traffic laws out there. You are our official.
Speaker 1:Perpeller head. Yes, our official policy, that's what they used to call me at work that was a propeller head the traffic guy.
Speaker 1:How did you know what we talk a lot about? Always, one of the biggest concerns of residents in any city is traffic, whether it's in your neighborhood, speed, what have you? But I was perusing my monthly AAA Westways Magazine and they published some new traffic laws that went into effect in California this year, and there were a couple that I highlighted because they seem to relate to discussions we've had on this show in the past, one of them being catalytic converters. We talked about the theft and what a ring that is and that you know to etch maybe your license plate or, more importantly, your VIN or the last five, six digits of your VIN.
Speaker 3:I put a post in note on your window. My converter's been stolen already, right?
Speaker 1:Stolen again. But anyway, to address California catalytic converter thefts they introduced three new laws that went into effect January 1st and I'm going to read from this, just because it's brief, but I don't want to mess anything up. Centipede 55 is really the big one because it prohibits a car dealer from selling any vehicle equipped with a catalytic converter unless the converter has been permanently marked with that vehicle's VIN. And that's a pretty big deal for used car sales. New car sales in California they have to. That catalytic converter in the vehicle has to be etched with the vehicle's VIN.
Speaker 3:But okay, that's a great idea. Are they publicizing that for these lowlifes you know to realize?
Speaker 2:But here's also. One of the problems is when they take it to this place to get. Whatever they do with it, they're $20. Yeah, I mean, and also if the police do find your catalytic converter with your VIN on it.
Speaker 1:What it does is it gives the police they can't reinstall it. They can't. But it gives the police a victim because a lot of times they can't successfully prosecute these cases without a name and if they can track down the owner of the car, then they have a victim that they can put with that.
Speaker 1:That's good. The couple of the smaller ones here, but the same. Well, they're still important. But makes it a misdemeanor to remove altar or I won't even try to say that word A VIN or other unique marking on a catalytic converter, or to possess three or more catalytic converters that have been so altered. So traffic stop on a car or pickup truck in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3:How did you find these three?
Speaker 1:that are in that car. Well, I found three of them in there that have been cut out or that have had numbers altered. They've scraped them off or ground them off, which in my personal experience I've come across that Right. But again, sometimes this is nothing you can do if you don't have a victim. Nothing says At the time there was nothing illegal about having that. Now it's actually codified and that's state. These are state laws, state assembly bills and lastly, 641 redefines auto dismantler, making it a misdemeanor. And this is on the dismantler and dealer side, the buyers of these stolen catalytic converters. So they're hand. They're addressing both ends of this operation right. Makes it a misdemeanor for anyone other than a licensed automobile dismantler to possess nine or more used catalytic converters that have been cut from a vehicle. So it limits the. They can't have mountains of these things laying around.
Speaker 3:I'm just curious. Now, here in Burbank I don't know of too many dismantlers, but you go over in Sun Valley, oh, they're everywhere.
Speaker 2:Let me Every block. What do you do when you're okay? Do you steal one of these things? You get your $50 for it. It costs $2,000 to buy, but you get $50. What do they do with it? When they get it, what is it?
Speaker 3:Buy drugs.
Speaker 1:Well somebody comes in with a bad catalytic converter, they replace it and they probably sell it to them as new, I was told, because they'll never know. Most people never see their catalytic converter or know what it looks like.
Speaker 2:I was once told you can't reuse them once they've been cut off your car.
Speaker 1:Well they're reused, but also the recycle value, the value of the metals that are inside a catalytic converter, are where the value is in those. So maybe they have a system they can recycle and get those expensive metals.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they take the copper. The copper they steal and they're catalytic converter there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but what's interesting is people complain that the district attorney in LA County doesn't prosecute anything. These are misdemeanors. Typically the state, the district attorney, doesn't handle misdemeanors. City attorneys handle that, and that's kind of where you want some of these laws to rest now, because the city attorneys and prosecutors are more likely to aggressively go after these people than our district attorney, and that's sad to say, but it's the truth, real quick. Electric bicycles We've certainly talked about that. Senate Bill 381 requires Basically what it's doing. It's ordering a study on electric bicycles to improve riders safety. The Institute will identify best practices by analyzing data on injuries, crashes, emergency room visits and deaths related to the use of electric and non-electric bikes. So you see the statistics going up of people getting in accidents.
Speaker 3:People are buying these devices to get around all the time and they don't realize there are more accidents.
Speaker 1:They get in over there all the time and that kind of is going to relate a bit to my comments at the end of the show here that I have oh, so put a, put a, send that the corner of that page over.
Speaker 1:But last one real quick.
Speaker 1:And this is more notable because a neighboring city is involved in this, not Burbank, but Assembly Bill 645 authorizes an Automated Speed Enforcement Pilot Program in LA, long Beach, glendale, oakland, san Jose and San Francisco.
Speaker 1:The new law allows the placement of speed detecting cameras in school zones, on streets with high incidents of races and side shows and on designated safety corridors, which are streets with the highest incidents of fatal and severe injury crashes. So there will be fines associated with these. But what the law outlines is that fines and violations escalate based on how much the speed limit has exceeded, ranging from $50 or 11 to 15 miles per hour over the limit, up to $500 for exceeding 100 miles an hour, which is actually a misdemeanor. But so it outlines all this. They have to provide a public education program for at least 30 days prior to the implementation and the first violations will receive warnings for the first 60 days of enforcement, as long as they're in that they're not 15 miles or more over the speed limit, but it's interesting that Glendale is part of this program. So careful if you're going to be driving around on Glendale.
Speaker 2:The Glendale assembly member is the one who put the. It was her bill.
Speaker 1:Laura Friedman, it was her bill, so you know what, so they could be coming our way.
Speaker 3:That's why I don't drive on Glendale.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say this though Now, the city you used to be a law enforcement officer in, did you have the red light cameras?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, I have been told, and it's true, that if you get a ticket on a red light camera you don't have to pay it. They've had court cases and you don't have to pay those tickets. Now they can't make you pay them because Well, if the photo doesn't identify the driver? Even if it doesn't, they don't have to. There's some kind of a. I'm not sure what it was, but I know you don't have to pay those tickets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, be sure, if you get one, be sure before you don't address it.
Speaker 2:My question is are they going to be able to circumvent whatever that ruling was the court ruling, so they will have to enforce this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd have to look into that specific ruling, especially if it's recent. But I know, but I know the red light cameras. The preference was for them to take a photo of the driver so somebody couldn't go to court and says I wasn't driving the car. You know, you can't cite me, but then legislation they were trying to work on, legislation that we just you would cite the owner of the car Doesn't matter, but it made that part. Yeah, you can't. It's tough.
Speaker 2:And I knew people who sprayed the special stuff in their license plate so it wouldn't get photographed or which is illegal. Yeah, but you couldn't get that.
Speaker 1:But there are a lot of states out there that use these speed cameras out, and typically out in the middle of nowhere. You'd never expect one.
Speaker 2:Well it's needed on a trailer. I wish we could have one on Glen Oaks here in Burbank.
Speaker 1:I'd love to see one on Glen Oaks. I'd love to see one on Olive going through Warner.
Speaker 2:Brothers, you know what I think we should? I know one.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of places. We should sponsor one right in the middle of Glen Oaks somewhere.
Speaker 2:Well, you can't sponsor Because it's not legal in Burbank.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, they're not part of this program but I'm sure after this whole this trial period.
Speaker 3:Well, isn't the long run To one slow down people.
Speaker 1:To yeah, because people refuse to do it on their own.
Speaker 3:Right, okay. The other day I heard on the news they want to put these limiters on cars. They're going 10 miles over the speed limit.
Speaker 1:That's a new thing.
Speaker 3:Think about it, folks.
Speaker 2:People are dying daily Right and people are it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not. They should have to retrofit it on every car.
Speaker 1:And people are up in arms. You're taking my freedoms away. Freedoms away. Well, what happens when society doesn't? You know it doesn't? There's going to be seven seat belts.
Speaker 2:Oh you have. You have me wear a seat belt. You're taking away my.
Speaker 1:Well, they've been proven Seat belts save hundreds of thousands of dollars, but again it's filling a void left by the lack of common sense.
Speaker 3:You know, let's back up a little here Today what? Three years after the accident they killed three juveniles, three people up on Glen Oaks Today, as I looked at my calendar, that trial started today. Oh, it didn't.
Speaker 2:No, we got postponed Again. We've got our reporter on it too. Okay, because that's what you had on the calendar he went to the hearing and, yeah, they've actually now postponed it again.
Speaker 1:No one regrets speeding until they crash. Four killed and they wish they could take it back.
Speaker 2:I've got a question to you. Gascon refuses to prosecute the 17-year-old driver as an adult, that's a juvenile. Now, when they vote Gascon out in November, if that guy has not kind of tried, is the new DA going to say you know what? Now you're going to charge us an adult, which they can do.
Speaker 1:It's up to them. You know the sad part about that, but I guarantee if Gascon God forbid lost a child in a traffic collision, they'd be prosecuting to the hilt.
Speaker 3:If I do read the LA Times, they endorsed him because the sad part is he is just enforcing the laws that people had voted on and that's all he's doing. He's doing his job.
Speaker 2:Well, the no bail.
Speaker 3:He's doing what?
Speaker 1:he promised. You get what you vote for.
Speaker 2:The site release thing is a little bit on him too, though.
Speaker 3:Right, so that's a whole other show.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We're past some people's bedtimes here, so there's a few more out there, but we go over those another time you say those, because those are like I said no, I get Westway. Page 10 of the spring of 2024.
Speaker 3:These laws go into effect and you don't hear them. You get stopped or you get a ticket and you go well, yeah.
Speaker 2:I can blend down the um yeah, that was the.
Speaker 1:that's the update for the for this episode.
Speaker 2:Let's move on to the weekend. I'm Saturday, oh, your favorite. We're going to have a.
Speaker 4:Okay, a gig event. Wait, who does the?
Speaker 3:Eddie Albert. Is it Eddie Albert? Who does the Eddie Albert? Who's the guy?
Speaker 1:on the Prince Albert, no, the guy on the guy on Petticoat Junction.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I'm thinking Green Acres. Who's the husband? It is Green Acres, and who's the husband? Eddie, eddie, albert. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Did we miss something or somebody? Just welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3:I know, thanks. How long have you been here? You guys bring up this dig bit and I just added to it.
Speaker 1:It's dig, because we that's still all capitals and we still don't know what they need to satisfy us. They need to come up with something that that stands for.
Speaker 2:They need volunteers 8 to 10 am at the Johnson Center. So if you wanted to over there, go ahead and bring your whole with you this coming Saturday.
Speaker 1:The third Wait a minute.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir, mr Sherwood and I both can go and sign up to be members at Jocelyn.
Speaker 2:You have to sign up, you just have to show up. Oh, we qualify. They're also going to have the Golden State Pacific plan community walking bus tour 8 30 to 10 30 am. They're going to meet at Randy's Donuts and you know what? I think good luck finding it I was going to say probably nobody's going to go because they can't find Randy's Donuts. What a what a bizarre location to have people meet at.
Speaker 1:Well, just put a giant sign. Put a sign with an arrow pointing to where it is Kind of tucked away in the corner of the strip mall there, literally.
Speaker 2:Makes no sense. Are they providing donuts?
Speaker 1:Anyway, maybe they have plans to in the future.
Speaker 2:How long does they?
Speaker 1:have Randy's Donuts.
Speaker 2:And uh, ross, I see you have a note here about brewing fire hiring Would you believe they are February 9th.
Speaker 3:I saw a post today.
Speaker 2:That's that. Well, we'll talk about that. We can talk about that next week.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, but put this on your calendar Get your resume.
Speaker 1:Dusted off how many.
Speaker 3:Greg.
Speaker 1:Jocelyn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how long have those lines been for guys that are putting in their?
Speaker 1:interest cards. I remember the days gone by where 10,000 people would put in for one firefighter spot. But what's happening on the start? What starts on the ninth? Yet they're accepting applications Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, go to Burbank fire departmentorg.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or city hall or personnel probably has a human resources probably has the requirements. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Works Well. If you stay with this list long, then you're in for a treat, because it's time for one thing, oh boy, one thing only.
Speaker 4:Ross is rant, ross is rant, ross is rant. I take a flame through into this place. What's up, john?
Speaker 1:Oh well done, I told you, oh man I told you I was surprised this week. Yeah, holy. I can't help how long have we been asking that he needs a theme, saying he needs a theme for this. That's great.
Speaker 3:Can you do that again for me? Sure Ready.
Speaker 4:Where is it?
Speaker 3:Ross is rant, ross is rant.
Speaker 2:Ross is rant.
Speaker 4:I take a flame through into this place. What's up, john?
Speaker 3:Wait, can you do your what's up, doc Is that legal?
Speaker 1:Well it's. The show is already two days long, so get on with it.
Speaker 3:All right, I have a minor, real quick one. I went to a concert on Saturday, burbank High, the All City Fantastic. They've played the you know Olympic fanfare and some theme, some theme songs to shows. And you know what's so annoying is everybody holding up their cell phone to shoot and they don't realize they're doing it for their own satisfaction, but the people behind them are getting blinded by their screen light. I know, craig, you always comment about how bright my screen is. I did not turn my phone on in that auditorium. But then you get Aunt Irma or Uncle Pete that doesn't know how to operate their phone and they take a flash picture.
Speaker 3:The light is always on, yeah, and they take a flash picture blinds everybody. I tell you I was so annoyed in that Burbank High auditorium I was about and then people, three feet, three rows in front of me, the husband keeps telling the wife turn your phone off, turn your phone off. I'm trying to get the, the kid on stage, turn your phone off. It's blinding me. I was going to go up, slap both of them and throw them out of the auditorium myself.
Speaker 2:Do they hire a company that films it? No, they didn't. Well, maybe they should.
Speaker 1:Okay they want their version of it. But how many times have I been to a show or something where I've had to actually watch some, if not all, of the show through somebody else's screen because they were blocking it, especially the iPad? Oh, somebody uses an iPad to photograph or record anything. There's a special place in hell for you and they put it above their heads, as they can see.
Speaker 1:And I've had to watch the whole show on their iPad because I can't see the stage anymore. Okay, does that qualify for a ramp? That is a good we all get.
Speaker 2:We're all in on that I've been having to add a little bit. It's like at parades, when a marching band comes through and there's 200 parents with their cell phones walking next to the band getting her note that that kid plays on his. It's, like you know, I'm watching the people walk by instead of the band.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing you're at a special event, a memory right, a special thing, a concert, a play, a band playing. How about you just enjoy the experience? Thank you very much. How about that? Right, but you'd rather not enjoy the live experience and then relive it through a little screen with crappy audio.
Speaker 3:No, put it down, enjoy the moment, put the live in the moment in front of me that she had no clue how to operate that iPhone 96 and what button to push and how to hear it. It wasn't a foot phone, was it?
Speaker 2:With no screen.
Speaker 1:Wow, and I know how far, I can throw one though.
Speaker 3:My other item, make it quick. You heard it here first Little it to little it.
Speaker 1:One miscue there we go there, it is.
Speaker 3:What's up pizza? Or what's up dough pizza? That is a new pizza place moving in we're pizza studio at Hollywood Way in Magnolia. Oh, and when was it before that place? Another pizza place?
Speaker 1:That went on the business.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when are they gonna learn your cross from portos?
Speaker 2:people aren't gonna eat pizza, but there's no place to park. There you go, and that's exact, no place to park.
Speaker 1:People want quick in and out pizza, grab a slice.
Speaker 3:Actually, there are some spots in back, but don't tell anybody, okay, oh, they're way back up on the roof too.
Speaker 2:But I mean, who that's parking a roof? Walk all the way down, walk all it. Just you know.
Speaker 1:You gotta work off the pizza, you just pizza. But pizza is about convenience.
Speaker 3:But that place? I just saw that on the, the city I wish them well.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I know, I wish them well, I mean, but I hope it works out for them.
Speaker 2:Those who don't learn from history do repeat it. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pizza place after pizza place has gone in there and but I mean, you know, if I was doing business in the neighborhood already, then I certainly walk there and get a slice or pizza pie or something.
Speaker 3:So that was my friend and my. You heard it here first.
Speaker 2:Well, I think we have a little bonus time. I think we have a Craig's comment.
Speaker 1:Do we have time? For a comment For Craig Julie, always, any time, all right, all right, I'm gonna this piggy back's on some bicycle talk. The city of Burbank does not have an ordinance prohibiting riding bicycles on sidewalks.
Speaker 4:Correct.
Speaker 1:Okay, state law requires you ride it in the street as close to the right curb as possible, going the same direction as the flow of traffic. That's what state law. State law does not address bicycle use on sidewalks. I say this because I almost got taken out, not once, twice today, by bicyclists on a sidewalk. I was walking to lunch on a sidewalk my name, my own business and the only reason I didn't get hit by this bicycle coming up behind me, because I saw the just out of the corner of my eye, a shadow coming up behind me really fast and I was able to turn my head and sidestep out of their way on the sidewalk and they went flying by like I wasn't even there. But here's, here's, check this out. If I had seen the shadow or reacted and gone the wrong direction, I would have been 100% collected by that bicycle on a sidewalk Right, and they were going, if essentially the opposite way of traffic, so they were coming up behind me. That was going to lunch, coming back, walking back from lunch on the same sidewalk.
Speaker 1:Another bicycle Wasn't the same guy, was it Different person? Okay, these are adults on full-sized bicycles. Another one I didn't see coming came flying right by me. And again, if I had just put my arm up, if I had moved to the left or right a little bit, they would have absolutely taken me out. Now it's not my responsibility as a pedestrian to have to defend my life and worry about bicycles taking me out on the sidewalk, but unfortunately, again, common sense people use these sidewalks. There's plenty of room in the street, in this particular street. So I think my vote is for the city of Burbank to address the use of bicycles on sidewalks and then enforce it, of course. But it just irks me that this, the bicycle lobby, they do this whole share the road. Share the road. But in my 30 years in traffic enforcement, when there's an accident, it's usually the bicycle violating the law Nine times out of 10.
Speaker 2:You said it's a state law about where you ride in the street Right.
Speaker 1:When you're riding a bicycle in the street, the the state law dictates how you do it.
Speaker 2:The state has no. Says nothing at all about sidewalks.
Speaker 1:No, that's covered by cities.
Speaker 2:The city ordinances cover sidewalks or it's not covered by cities If they choose not to now.
Speaker 1:I've worked in cities that have prohibitions against riding on the sidewalk. But it's a city responsibility. It has to be in the city municipal code.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what we have a next month we're going to have another Ask the Mayor podcast. I think we'll ask the mayor.
Speaker 1:Because you know, and even when there is an ordinance in place that we talk about in the past, the spirit of the law versus letter of the law, right it then, as long as it's codified, then you give law enforcement the authority, the discretion Right. A three year old, a five year old, a 10 year old on a bicycle that's not used to riding, and all that Sure, you know, alameda probably isn't the best place to be. It's probably safer for them to be on the sidewalk. But a grown adult on a bicycle, especially if they're clicked in. Well, they know they need to be in the street.
Speaker 3:They got their headphones on, they're into their music. They're not watching, which is also illegal.
Speaker 1:You can't wear headphones or two earplugs while riding a bicycle. Oh, and it's also illegal. I did not know that you have to have at least one hand on the handlebar. But yeah, you can't. You need to be aware of your surroundings, right? And if I'm on a sidewalk, it's up to the bicyclists to watch out for me, not the other way around.
Speaker 2:The thing that I agree 100% with you. The problem we have there are streets that aren't safe to ride bicycles and, I'm sorry, in our bike, our bike routes are not safe, I agree. Such as Pass Avenue. It's a bike route with no area for a bicycle to traverse in traffic, so you'd be forced to use a sidewalk to be safe.
Speaker 1:But I agree, but leave the discretion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know no. No, but you're absolutely right. I think you know it's called a sidewalk, not a side bikeway or something you know.
Speaker 1:Exactly, but put it into the code, follow what other cities are doing and then use the discretion in enforcement in a common sense way to enforce it. But I know that. But if that a bicycle had taken me out on the sidewalk, they weren't taken, but they weren't in violation of anything.
Speaker 3:It needs to be looked at now because they're enforcing or they're suggesting more people ride their bikes. I'm part of Walk Bike Burbank, you know, and I've never thought about that. You know I happen when I do ride, right in the street.
Speaker 2:I thought it was against a little ride. I mean I really did. I thought it was against a lot of sidewalks. I guess I'm totally.
Speaker 1:Only if it's in it's like mentioned. It's a city responsibility to come up with your ordinance for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought it was in Burbank.
Speaker 1:And I have handled countless collisions in my career involving bicycles leaving a sidewalk, going into a driveway or something like that being hit by a car, and they could be. But because it was against municipal code, some official fault could be put on the bicyclist. If you have, if you don't address it at all, it's very hard to put any fault on the bicycle.
Speaker 3:You know with all these restaurants, these coffee shops that are now putting these tables out front. I'm just going to say one example romance in the bean has literally wrought iron, and when to get in front of their store, it's literally this wide. You're right, you're walking there on a bike. Come by Riverside Drive. There's these restaurants that have four or five tables out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, there are laws in place that that put the you know responsibility on the bicyclist for for their due care, but also, you know, motor vehicle drivers. So if, if they're you come into a choking point, there's a car and a bicycle, the car is required to give as much space to that bicycle as possible. If it's me coming up, instead of going into an opposing lane of traffic, if there's a car coming, what do I do? I slow down, slow down, back off, let the bicycle clear the choke point and then I'll I'll follow through behind it. But once everything happens in the street, then there are laws to address all that and who has the right of way when they have the right of way. But a lot of it is education. People just don't know that there are these laws out there and they certainly don't know that well, they do. Now that that is, burbank needs to codify.
Speaker 2:I've seen people on the Chandler bike path one side they have a line for walking in for bike riding and I see the people walking in the bike area and I see the guy's bike is it enforceable?
Speaker 1:is it codified?
Speaker 2:Oh, not at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's just a suggestion. Yeah, honor system.
Speaker 3:Well, many times I've ridden the Chandler bike path and you come up with a family pushing a stroller and a little kid and walking the dog with one of those leashes yep, that pull out oh yeah, the 30 foot leash. Yeah, your, your screwed as a bicycle rider.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah but unless it's in the code, it's it's not enforceable.
Speaker 3:so Look what you learned tonight.
Speaker 1:You got learned about my self-hold uppity.
Speaker 3:We learned about the ritzy. We learned about the process range.
Speaker 1:And now you have another question to ask the mayor.
Speaker 2:Another question to ask the mayor what a hell of a show. Well, okay, everybody, that's it for another of the weeks. That was Good content. We hope you enjoyed it. Ross Benson and Craig doing this. Craig Sherman saying we will talk to you again next week.
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