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The Week That Was and That Will Be - November 20

November 21, 2023 Craig Sherwood, Craig Durling, Ross Benson Season 1 Episode 72
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The Week That Was and That Will Be - November 20
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Welcome to another exciting episode of our podcast! In this episode, titled "From Polar Bears to Politics: Navigating Burbank's Twists and Turns," we take you on a journey from the captivating landscapes of polar bears in Canada to the complexities of local politics in Burbank. Strap in and get ready for an adventure!

The episode begins with a thrilling discussion on polar bear photography in Canada. One of our team members shares their incredible experience of staying at a Tundra Buggy Lodge in northern Manitoba. They take us through their wildlife photography journey, capturing breathtaking images of polar bears, foxes, and adorable cubs in their natural habitat. The discussion also emphasizes the importance of having a valid passport when traveling abroad, offering valuable travel tips and reminders.

But the adventure doesn't stop there. We dive headfirst into the murky waters of local politics in Burbank. We explore the recent cancellation of a city-school joint meeting, uncovering issues of transparency and communication within the city council and school board. The hosts dissect the nuances of Burbank's local politics, discussing the role of the city manager and the need for understanding and cooperation when addressing community issues. It's a thought-provoking conversation that sheds light on the challenges and opportunities in local governance.

Amidst the discussions on wildlife and politics, we take a moment to pay tribute to fallen officer Matthew Pavelka. The hosts share their experiences from a heartfelt memorial ceremony held in Burbank, honoring Pavelka's dedication and service. It's a poignant reminder of the sacrifices made by law enforcement officers and a testament to the strength of the Burbank community.

The episode also touches on a range of other topics, such as Burbank's bus system and the enforcement of city standards. The hosts discuss the recent meeting of the transportation committee, and delve into the impact of enforcement on city standards. It's a diverse range of subjects that showcases the multifaceted nature of Burbank's community and governance.

In closing, the hosts express their gratitude to the incredible Burbank sponsors who support the podcast. They extend warm Thanksgiving wishes to all the listeners, reminding them of the importance of supporting local businesses. It's a heartfelt message that encapsulates the spirit of community and connection that permeates throughout the episode.

So, whether you're a wildlife enthusiast, a political junkie, or simply interested in exploring the unique tapestry of Burbank, this episode has something for everyone. Join us as we navigate the twists and turns of this vibrant city, from polar bear landscapes to political minefields. Don't miss out on this captivating and thought-provoking episode!

Speaker 1:

from deep in the Burbank Media District. It's time for another edition of my Burbank Talks, presented by the staff of my Burbank. Now let's see what's on today's agenda as we join our program.

Speaker 2:

Hello everybody. Craig Sherwood here with you and we have the band back together again. Of course, that would be Craig Durling.

Speaker 1:

Evening. Everybody Good to be back.

Speaker 2:

And of course Ross Benson.

Speaker 3:

Well, you know, I got this nice new hat and everybody says that I never talk and so forth. I gotta take these off for one second. I'll keep you never not. Don't talk. I was afraid to have hat hair. You know we're in a hat, so you must have left it in there.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there's no hair.

Speaker 3:

No, nothing in there. Oh well, how are you this week, troops? Good, good, good, good good.

Speaker 1:

Good to be back, good to be back Craig.

Speaker 3:

It's good to have Craig, it's early.

Speaker 1:

Remember me.

Speaker 3:

Welcome back.

Speaker 1:

It hasn't been quite that long.

Speaker 3:

Your passport's so good in town.

Speaker 1:

Actually, I just sent it out to be renewed, so, nope, it's not good at the moment.

Speaker 2:

You need to show passport to Canada.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yep, I had to get a Canada. When my kid got married, I had to get a passport and my granddaughters one of them didn't have. Her last trip had expired and she had to stay here and well went.

Speaker 1:

Some countries and this for the travelers out there some countries have a rule where it has to be valid for the next six months from the day you're gonna leave that country, or they won't accept it. They won't let you in. Canada is not one of those, but if you're traveling abroad. Make sure that if you have an expiration date on your passport within the next six months or so you know that brings up a great topic passport Craig.

Speaker 3:

When, sherwood, when's the last time you got your passport? In 2021, so years ago.

Speaker 2:

I needed for a cruise and got on the cruise. We went to Mexico and found out you didn't need a passport. Well, you know what we're talking about, but Zett Mullins. I found out the last second I was going and went to Zett Mullins and said hey, I need this quick. She expedited everything. Her staff was amazing.

Speaker 3:

Her city, clerk, is amazing.

Speaker 2:

I got it literally within five weeks after applying for it.

Speaker 1:

That reminds me I have to cancel my appointment with the city clerk because I made an appointment to do it at the city clerk's office and ended up just doing it by mail myself rather than wait the two weeks for the appointment. So I have to go cancel it.

Speaker 3:

So the reason we were talking about trips because we're always on a trip here at the week that was the week that will be. Craig Durling, we are glad to have you back in studio. You did go on a excursion, no excursion.

Speaker 1:

A discourage, an excursion, an adventure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think somebody needs their chiclet.

Speaker 3:

Thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

All right, let me get a close up here.

Speaker 3:

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

We can get a roll. Somebody bring him his chiclet, please. Okay.

Speaker 1:

There it is, got it. Yes, let's bring him his chiclet, please Smile, and a mother could love.

Speaker 3:

You know, the whole family has that. My granddaughters, my son had it. But, Craig, you just came back from an amazing trip. Pretty good, I have seen some pictures that I don't think I have ever seen except in National Green Geographic.

Speaker 1:

You haven't seen pictures from me like this ever.

Speaker 3:

Well, I don't think everybody knows. I've never seen me get known. You are a man of many talents. We not only are voice on our podcast and a professional voice.

Speaker 1:

You are One of many.

Speaker 3:

One of many. You are a DJ, you are a retired law enforcement officer and, on top of it, you and I know each other as photographers.

Speaker 1:

That's how we came to meet many, many moons ago, 30 years ago, yeah, give or take.

Speaker 3:

And you just came back from a trip and your pictures are friggin' amazing. You said friggin'. I appreciate it. I had to say friggin' because you were in friggin' cold weather. It was cold.

Speaker 1:

Where were you? I was. I was on a photo expedition up in northern Manitoba, canada, on the shores of Hudson Bay in a town called Churchill May have heard of that. It's known as the polar bear capital of the world. You got the kids polar bears Almost almost. You've seen pictures of it sniffing the bottom of my boot through the great platform we were on. You were within an inch of that bear's nose. These things have paws the size of a dinner plate or a hubcap, for those that remember hubcaps.

Speaker 2:

A hubcap.

Speaker 1:

Hubcaps, but no.

Speaker 2:

Now I could have an extra one. Find some. They're on the borderline waiting for you to get them.

Speaker 1:

It was a great trip, Spent a week out on the what's known as the Tundra Buggy Lodge, and the outfit we did it through is called shout out to Frontiers North Adventures anybody that wants to look it up. You actually leave Churchill and you spend the week out on the ice with the bears in what's called the Tundra Buggy Lodge, and it's basically kind of a train on big tires and it's out there in the bunk houses. There's a dining room and a lounge in there and amazing staff, amazing food and our guides. We would go out every day on the Tundra Buggies. Those were our shooting platforms for the days. Our feet didn't touch Terra Ferma for a week, because that belongs to the bears, and we photographed bears for the week polar bears.

Speaker 3:

You have pictures of bears, foxes, baby bears.

Speaker 1:

Baby cubs. Well, that's what I always go for.

Speaker 2:

I want to see the cubs there would be a cub, yes.

Speaker 1:

I want to see the cubs playing, rolling around and all that. And they're born in late winter, january, february. So the cubs we saw were 10, 11 months old, so they were bigger, but they're still smaller than mom. But these things, when you get as close as we got to them, they're the size of a car and, like I said, just their paws are the size of a hubcap Very intimidating. But when it's just you and them and a little metal grate between you, because they're now under you, under your platform, standing on their hind feet about 11 feet tall, see through metal, pressing their nose to the bottom of your boot, through the metal grate and sniffing, that's quite an experience right there.

Speaker 3:

Where can people see some of your art?

Speaker 1:

Trickle. My least favorite part of photography is the editing part, the post-processing. I took about 4,000 images. Took some video too that I'll sift through, but took about 4,000 pictures over the four, five days we were there and I'm now kind of slowly going through them.

Speaker 3:

People I don't think realize for professional photographers we just don't shoot picture and put it up. Every picture you have to work. It's either the contrast, the sharpness, all there's a lot of things You're shooting raw so.

Speaker 2:

Wait a second so you have to edit. You don't take a picture of your cell phone and just push send. I actually took a picture.

Speaker 1:

There's actually a work to be a professional photographer. I actually took a lot of pictures and video with my cell phone because there were many times when the bears were so close to us. They're basically we're looking down on them and that's not really a usable photograph Professionally speaking. So I had my phone out recording video and if you look at putting some up on my Facebook, eventually it'll be on my website. But if you go to Craig Derling Photo at Craig Derling Photo on Instagram, that's where I'm posting as I go through it and edit and call through the images I have, that's where I'm putting them up. Well, you see amazing art. Give me a follow and like them too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I've known Craig's work. He's gone up to Alaska and he caught bears chasing salmon.

Speaker 1:

I think that's where I might let them go.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you have been in other places. You shoot birds, you shoot a lot of things.

Speaker 1:

Then after last summer.

Speaker 3:

Yep, and I'm really like I said. He has a great eye for photography. Look at a couple of his pictures. Maybe he'll lend us a couple for our video part of this. We might even do a podcast on photography, which we did. Well, we've done that before, haven't we? 20, 30, 20 years ago.

Speaker 1:

No, not that long ago, it's actually on Spotify. If anybody looks up Fireground Action Photography, the podcast on Spotify, that'll be the 60 episodes that Ross and I did together on the art of fire or emergency services photography. And I learned everything I know from you, this guy over here back in the film days.

Speaker 3:

Well, you know folks, I'll throw back to Craig Sherwood who will lead us into the show. We took a little extra time this week because it is a holiday week and our show. We did meet for our meeting before the show tonight and our meeting, or even our dinner, was short.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So the show is short, so we figured you guys can listen to Craig talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Once again we have a shout to who? To Heather, heather, heather, patties and of course, and George, the owner, who once again treats us to a magnificent dessert.

Speaker 1:

That was very nice of him. And we saw him with the leaf blower as we walked out.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know what people don't really. When you own a restaurant, you just don't sit there and collect money and count it. You have a successful restaurant, which I'm sure Ross can tell you from dealing with tequila and with Hill Street that you're spending a lot of time as an owner doing the little things to make sure that restaurant is perfect and George is out there with his leaf blower cleaning up after night. But I'll tell you what. Once again, the food at Patties.

Speaker 3:

Wait a minute, it's not only dinner. Craig, how was your lunch today? That's right.

Speaker 1:

I had lunch there at Patties today too, because I had business at the post office which is right behind it. But George on our way out said he was gonna be there back at 4 am tomorrow morning to start getting ready for the holiday stuff. Cook and turkey he said Job never ends for the owner of a good restaurant.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So where are we, craig?

Speaker 2:

Well, we're at last, we're not in the media district. We're last. We're not in the media district, we've come to learn. We've learned that by two blocks, I guess, you know, or between Tlukal Lake and the media district. So we're just in an area of Burbank that just doesn't exist, I guess. So let's go back to last Tuesday. Now we're gonna kind of do something a little different here. We're gonna tie them in together. The last Tuesday was a city council meeting and on Thursday was a school board meeting.

Speaker 3:

Wait a minute. How could they do that?

Speaker 2:

Oh they exactly. How can they do that?

Speaker 1:

Or did they?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So the city, for months and months and months, had a plan to have a joint meeting with the school board on Tuesday and all of a sudden, in fact, we had our last show. We even talked about the fact that the meeting adjourned and said we will see you next week in the community services building. Don't show up to city council. And then we talked about wait a second here. Now the agenda, now it says go to city council. What's going on? And so what basically happened? And it's so strange how they bring this stuff up it was brought up that the school board at this city council meeting it was brought up to the school board president had canceled the meeting, said we're not gonna show up because they had a problem with the agenda and our city council I kept using the word incubator, our city council, because transparency is not, I guess.

Speaker 3:

Incubator.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So our city council who is actually says they consider word transparent and spell it 25 different times, but they sure can't be transparent Kept saying, well, there's an issue with an incubator, when the issue was about having you know Proclamation or resolution. No, they wanted to have an agenda item about inclusion. It was about inclusion, which we found out on Thursday. So why they wouldn't tell the public what the issue was. Once again, I don't understand. But they said you know there were issues and they couldn't get things together. And then let's, we're gonna bounce back and forth here, so we're gonna bounce, bounce over to Thursday and the school like tennis match Okay. So, on the school board meeting, which I think is run a lot looser than city meetings because they don't seem to have the same way of doing things, starting with one of our school board members who refuses to stand up for the pledge of allegiance because she's protesting something in New Mexico, I wonder. I got a question. If a kid in school said I'm not standing for the pledge of allegiance because I'm protesting the way that they're treating the Palestinians right now, what would happen then? Would that create just a firestorm? I mean, you know, if you're gonna not do that for one reason, then somebody else can have their reason too. And now, all of a sudden, I don't know, and elected official would not stand for the pledge of allegiance. And Ross, you told me which I did not see that she actually responded to my editorial on Facebook.

Speaker 3:

I don't think so. I think it was on, it was one of the social media.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and I don't look at it the first time you've heard of it. You know what? I couldn't care less. You know Anybody who can't respect. You know the pledge of allegiance in our country because they want to protest something that's not even a local issue.

Speaker 3:

Well, people need to understand.

Speaker 2:

We don't you know she has the right to protest. I understand that she has that right.

Speaker 1:

You know what we also have put, so did Tarlan Taperneck in his career got destroyed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but there's also a thing called leadership too.

Speaker 3:

Well, but there's a way to you know, put it on social media. You know a lot of people I see on Facebook. They wanna talk about something and get you know people on their side. Put it on there. We have a method, it's called write a letter to the editor. We run every letter that we get, whether I like it or not, and we all see it and maybe you know it does say in our fine print write us a letter to the editor instead.

Speaker 2:

I never saw it, you know within. I don't look at Facebook because it's just a bitch session usually on that thing. So, anyhow, I stay. My thing is X. I stay with the X. We call it Twitter in the real world, but that X likes my view.

Speaker 3:

I can tell you that oh.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry. Well, you keep doing funny stuff over there, so I want to. The camera loves you tonight.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a camera.

Speaker 1:

Anyhow, we have to watch the video version of this. Let me get back to what we're saying. Oh well, in fact.

Speaker 2:

So then our school board president gets on. This was it On Thursday at school board president, because they didn't show up to Tuesdays meetings so nobody talked there. So our school board president, steve Ferguson, gets up on Thursday and goes off on the city staff, especially Justin Hess. Now I'm sorry, I've dealt with Justin Hess for 20 years. Ross, you too, you know he's been with the city 25 years.

Speaker 1:

And for the listeners. Who is Justin Hess?

Speaker 2:

Justin Hess is a city manager and in Burbank the city manager runs the city. The city council hires a city attorney and a city manager. The city manager then runs the city, hires all the department heads and everything else runs the day-to-day operations.

Speaker 3:

He's the one that makes the decisions.

Speaker 1:

So Well, and all the heads of the department typically work for the city manager. They don't work for the city council.

Speaker 2:

Right Right. So he came out and said Justin Hess shot down his agenda item for inclusion. The mayor tried to work it out where they did a proclamation and said we can put it on a future meeting and do it then. And Steve Ferguson was not gonna have anything to do with that. He wanted to be on the agenda now because he was a board president for two more months and once it during his term. He now wants the city council to call a special meeting so they can have a talk about inclusion. It just sounds like a personal agenda and he kept saying things such as you know, this is terrible. We've canceled it. This is for the kiddos. Well, you know what works for the kiddos School security, that's for the kiddos. School resource officers, that's for the kiddos. I guess those issues were important. You couldn't just say you know what, I get it, we can wait till the next joint meeting. In fact, you know it's funny. He says how well they worked together all the time. Yet the city council meeting which he says he watched 20 times, city council members couldn't even remember the last time they really worked with the school district at all or anything, until somebody brought up yeah, didn't you do a walkthrough with them. The city council doesn't have the same great memories as the school board does, you know. As far as you know, they're working well together.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

I think it's my time. Justin Hess though. We've dealt with Justin has a lot of times as a news organization. Justin has always basically been a word backwards to assist us, to help us, to send us information, to respond. Anytime we send him an email or call him, he's always there. He calls back, for he doesn't send a member of his staff to do it, he does it personally. On a personal note, I lost my dog during the pandemic. He passed away. I was pretty heartbroken but I wanted to get another dog and try to go to the Burbank animal shelter and they were closed for the pandemic. I get it. I sent Justin has notes hey, any idea when you? He sent me back an email a week later and says hey, we've got a thing where we can probably, you know, help you out. And I already had another dog with me. We got Dodger and Darla lives at that time, at that time. But the point is is that a week later he still thought about that and sent me a personal email to try to help. That's the kind of person Justin has is a very caring, thoughtful and resourceful person. And I know Ross, you've dealt with him many more times than I have and I don't think he's ever done something to you that would be looked as a negative type in contention.

Speaker 3:

Very very true. And you know what? What gets me? How Burbank runs their government, how things are put on the agenda Very different there versus how the school district does it. Yes, Very, very different. And that is fine. A lot of people think that they work hand in hand. I do know for a fact when Matt Hill was superintendent he could call Justin anytime and I guarantee our new superintendent has that same working relationship.

Speaker 1:

You have to.

Speaker 3:

God forbid something happens. They want to work together? Yes, they do, but both boards operate differently. One needs to understand how the other one brings on resolutions and so forth. I don't see where I get it as a personal item for Steve Ferguson.

Speaker 1:

Why did he get it?

Speaker 3:

done before his term is done. But that's not how Burbank can just drop anything and let's put it on. So what they said they're going to, I don't know where it got left.

Speaker 2:

There was a wording in the. There was a wording in the agenda the way he wanted it. That wasn't. The city said we have a city attorney that actually views things and, as an example, joel Schlossman, who we comes up and makes his points, yeah, at the school board meeting, also criticized Emily Weisberg for her not standing up for the Pledge of Allegiance again, and Steve Ferguson dressed him down during his communications, said you know, I'm going to talk to our attorney about you being able to talk about that. It's like, well, you know, if you ran a meeting the way that the city does, the city has a city attorney at every meeting. Just for those reasons, the fact they don't even have an attorney there is also, you know, an issue. But the point being is that you've got a right to say what he wants to say during oral communications and Steve Ferguson says no, you won't treat my team like that. I don't think Steve Ferguson knows the first thing about what a team is. He's never been, you know. I mean, I'm sorry, being a team player, being a team player and working out for his kiddos does not mean you cancel meetings because your previously agenda didn't get didn't get moved forward, which I'm sure and I think this is not an issue the city council is going to say oh no, we want to vote against inclusion. No, we don't want to include. No, but to include to say, you know, justin Hess was not there for his meeting on that day. He was at a city manager's conference. How dare he? He should be here doing his job and this huge issue.

Speaker 1:

But as a result, no business got taken care of. No business.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you know what? They had three, two, three months to put this together. This didn't have to cut. You know this was not on the agenda forecast for two weeks so they could have got. You know this is last minute Louis stuff and it's not how it works. It's not how, especially with a city, the city machine, the city machine, because you have the city thing, you have every department head there, you have every resource there, you have staff there for presentations, you have. You have a lot going on in the city council meeting compared to a school board meeting.

Speaker 3:

And I think they need to look at the bigger picture on this, especially on this, is this is how it works, this is how Burbank operates and you're not going to change it.

Speaker 2:

And I don't say the city, the school district. We have a school district member who calls Bret Hart Hart Elementary. Now I have never in my 60 years in the city heard anybody ever call Hart Elementary. It's always been called Bret Hart.

Speaker 3:

My granddaughter goes there and I call it Bret Hart.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's really not the wrestler, though no, it's not the wrestler.

Speaker 2:

I just think you know, anybody who knows Burbank knows how we let the lingo of the city and it's like, well, here's somebody who probably has lived in Burbank that long and somehow got elected. Never heard we're in the past, but that's fine, I'm glad she's there, I'm glad she's trying to do good to good work. But you know, at least learn how people talk about the schools. I mean, there's certain you know we call okay, we say Stevenson. We don't say Robert Louis Stevenson, you know. Or we don't say Stevenson Elementary, we say Stevenson. Everybody knows what we're talking about. You say Bret Hart, everybody knows what you're talking about. Right, I mean it's it's. We say Hart Elementary. It's like I had to take a piece of Hart Elementary. Wait, is that a person?

Speaker 3:

If you say Hart, I think about Santa Clarita, but that's what I thought of too.

Speaker 2:

I was thinking of the Hart School District out there. Anyhow, I'm going to my point in with this is I'm sorry there's something there. There's a problem with school board. They're out of touch. They could have come and still had that meeting and left out the agenda and talked about school security, talked about about SROs, talked about other common issues you know in the schools, and not had that agenda and had it at a later time.

Speaker 3:

You know, a couple years ago you sent me, the president. You know, next time, A couple years ago I remember there were heads hitting between city council member and school board members when it was talked about the trees around Johnborough Memorial Field and Keystone and I was at an event when they renamed Doris Hereta middle school and city council did not get invited and they Two Hispanic members very upset. Yes, and they felt that they need to be involved. Sometimes city council members think that they need to be involved in everything in the city, but they don't. The city and the schools are separate. Even now, the schools are in the city.

Speaker 2:

It's still a nice to send an invitation, but they actually didn't think of it. They didn't do it on purpose, they just didn't do it. You know what? And guess what? The city council people still could have shown up, you know? Just because you didn't get personally invited. Right, if they put out an invitation to the public to be there, aren't they part of the public? Why can't they still go if it's important to them, instead of making a bitch session about it?

Speaker 3:

Well, we'll see what goes on.

Speaker 2:

I know for him to call Justin Hess out and even say well, justin has, can you know they can, they can light the city hall up in you know, colors for June, or you know? Or pride, appreciation, but when it comes down to the you know, all of a sudden now it's just not important to them. That is not true. That is not true. I will not have Justin has painted in those colors like that. I mean, I'm sorry, that's not who Justin has is. That's not who he intends to be. Um, and I know Ross has his rant, the other show. I guess I'm going off a little on it, but I just when I heard him blame all this on Justin Hess instead of on his own selfishness, I had a problem. Anyhow, any more thoughts no.

Speaker 1:

I'm speechless.

Speaker 2:

I've thought enough for everybody. The rest of you said it all. I just sit here and be a good uh, a good producer.

Speaker 3:

What buttons are you supposed to put?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I think I pushed all the buttons.

Speaker 3:

Does that?

Speaker 2:

bring us to Wednesday.

Speaker 1:

Wednesday November 15th.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we had. We had Wednesday. Now, at Wednesday, a lot of things went on actually, um, to start with, uh, Burbank had a fantastic ceremony for Burbank's fallen officer, Matthew Pavellka, who was killed on duty exactly 20 years ago to that day, and the Burbank police foundation paid for a flagpole and plaque to be placed in Johnny Carson Park and there was a tremendous ceremony there which Ross was at. Um, and Ross, make sure you talk, I think we should also. You should talk about, because you were at the night he was shot. I think you should talk about how, the similarities to that night and to Wednesday with the weather and everything else, and why don't you go ahead and talk about that?

Speaker 3:

20 years ago to the day, I was living on Boinevist and near um Jordan Uh and um, that was three blocks from the Ramada in. I heard the call go down, my son and I jumped in my car. We flew there. I remember the first person I came across was a motor officer, randy Lloyd, who was down, crashed his bike on the railroad tracks because it had just started to rain.

Speaker 2:

They were very slippery.

Speaker 3:

They were slippery and he was trying to get his motorbike back up with two broken legs and a broken wrist and I went to help him. He said, ross, go shoot, go shoot pictures. Well, we got there and the scene was it was very hectic. You had officers down, they were rolling paramedics for two officers down. We got a shooter somewhere around, so they kind of got the media on the other side of the railroad tracks and hurtled them together. I was out there all night long, um with uh, it was a very big crime scene. Well, if you want to know more about the Matthew Pavelka story, there's there's a lot of online you can go to. That's well documented, quite well documented. Uh, they, they found um, one of the violent boys who had gone to Mexico. Um, and with the aid of several law enforcement, they brought him back. I believe it was on Thanksgiving. Um brought uh, one of the suspects back and, um, that was a real trying time for Burbank First time we had lost an officer in many, many Well, since the 60s.

Speaker 2:

I think 40 years and, uh, 20 years, and even then that was in a traffic accident. That was not a.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't an officer. Yeah, so 20 years blows by so fast. Uh. The ceremony that they did last Wednesday was real touching Um. Many of the officers that worked with Matt out of retirement came back to for the event. Almost all the department was there Um. The Baker to Vegas running team um were there and they plan on running they. They had a fly by by air one um. That was very touching. They had bagpipes and the uh the drum core there um our supervisor, karen Barger, uh gave the flag salute um Matthew Pavelka's parents and family um uncovered a plaque that is. It was on my Burbankcom If you want to see what the writing was. For the donors.

Speaker 2:

Great pictures on there too. They people should go look at our side and see the pictures.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they're really. Um, it was a well written story. Um, they in fact had Mike Davis who was a fire chief at the time. They had the fire, the police chief, um, hopeful, there was there. Tim Steer was there. I mean, these officers I haven't seen in 10, 15 years. And then, uh, it was very short, very sweet and it was just amazing. It rained, as I said, 20 years ago to the day, and last week at the ceremony, it was raining exactly like it was 20 years ago. We all had umbrellas, we were all you know it's a no fun to shoot in the rain, but I will say his, his fellow officers, and one of the things that they do every year they wear their dress blues, fire department. Where's their dress blues? They're a class A, I guess. Not dress blues, but class A uniform, Is that right, Craig? Yeah, Uh, that means long sleeve ties. It's our formal, uniform, formal uniform they were out there and then the team that runs the Baker Vegas ran from the ceremony last week in the rain up all the way to the police station in memory of Matt so um pictures of that too. Yep, there's a scholarship in memory of Matt that will go to law enforcement uh officer son or daughter, and this last year, um, it just so happened to be one of the embaltons daughters and her dad was a pilot in there one the other day when he paid this uh the. Scripture, uh, from the choir lab For that agreement. Oh yeah, actually, you can make any Crunchy Beans from there and put it on your website or anything somebody can go to believe. The foundation for Bank, uh, burbank police foundation, dork, and there's all the other uh scholarships. That you do so is a rather moving. You were only on the department for ten months but everybody, you were that bright red-headed kid, the big smile, yep, with a big smile, good kid.

Speaker 2:

Let's point out too, he did nothing against Paul around Paul, so he didn't, you know, even though he'd been there ten months. He did everything by the book, the way it should have been done and they were ambushed.

Speaker 3:

Yep, and it says that in the story there were our writer. That's a new writer that wrote for us and he did some good research on.

Speaker 1:

That night. Yeah, I remember the night Well. I was working for another agency at the time, but I remember at the time I think my beeper went off or my pager alert and I was reading the updates that one officer was down in Burbank and then a second officer and I Was trying to get more details. But I've since learned many details of that night which I don't necessarily care to remember, but I do remember Randy Lloyd on two broken ankles was directing traffic at that intersection Yep for hours in the rain. Talk about how far adrenaline will take you, but he was in a wheelchair. At the funeral I did attend the funeral, brought a couple of co-workers from my department up there and attended the funeral and New Greg. There were two officers shot. Greg was shot first on a traffic stop behind the Ramada and Matthew went to back him up and was ambushed after he neutralized the Initial shooter but he didn't know. The second one was there. But You're welcome to research the details if you like, but good kid struck down Way too, young, not not that there's an age appropriate for anybody very sad. But I'll have to go visit the the park now. Unfortunately I was out of out of town for the ceremony. I certainly would have would have been there.

Speaker 3:

Well, you know, and he was a military police officer and his dad was a LAPD Detective and his dad he always wanted to be a police officer. His dad and mom tell the story all the time and his dad said go to a safe department. There's never any Prime and shootings in Burbank. It's a lot safer than if you go to work for LAPD and where you might end up and and it just. His dad lives with that all his life and I know them quite well. They were there the other day. His cousins and brothers were there.

Speaker 2:

So and that entire thing took years, actually resolved. They had the suspect fled to Mexico. They were able to bring him back. They tried him. He's now in prison. He's been living serving a life sentence without chance of parole and it also brought down a Burbank mayor Right had actually had ties with that ties to that gang. I only say the gang gang stand to give them that publicity. But but there was a lot of Fallout over the next few years about that entire incident.

Speaker 3:

So and I don't think most you know People don't get to know some of the other things. Matt Pavellco's locker Is still in their locker room, you know, with his ID on it and everything, and it's a reminder to that's a real lesson.

Speaker 2:

I know that in New York Yankees you'll have Thurman Munson's locker In their locker, so they basically retired his locker.

Speaker 1:

But it's a constant remind, constant reminder for officers this can happen. It can happen here, as quiet as Burbank can get. There are no walls, no fences, anything they can come through. Anything can happen anytime, anything can happen anywhere.

Speaker 2:

For that you know we like to think we were out of this little sleepy community. But you know, if you look at our police arrest arrest reports, I would say easily 80%, if not more, people that arrested are not Burbank residents. You know, we people in Burbank really don't do crime here, but if people from the outside all come to burbanking the theme, we're easy pickings and we're really not and where's the?

Speaker 1:

did you mention when the park is? So people? It's actually On the south side of the freeway, it's right next to where there is a sculpture called the defender, and and it's right next to that if you go by, johnny, not gonna mention what, no, don't buy Johnny Carson Park on the and go under the freeway right then Riverside side for those who've been there. Portion of the park.

Speaker 2:

Over there recently. It's where they had the water and power. Fences were on Riverside. From across from that now it's gonna be a dog park, so it's right across the street, for that location is. So yeah, you'll find it's not Riverside Drive. Did I go up Bob Hope?

Speaker 1:

Riverside and Bob Hope.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and you know I know some families paid Money that put in the flagpole. The city parks are wrecked, helped them out the electrical department to get power out there. Constantine, Michael Hastings did a fantastic the ceremony I gotta give Mike out on the back. It was short and sweet. He said it's gonna be 30 minutes. I think it was 32 and we were done and out of there. And John Rossati Also spearheaded that. The board of realtors gave them 500 or quite a bit of money Along with some of local residents. So thank you, Stop buying. You know Matthew Pavelka deserves.

Speaker 1:

You know in word and if you happen to have some flowers you can drop off, you're more than welcome to do that.

Speaker 2:

Yep moving on, yeah, moving on, that's. That's Depressing. So you know it's impressive but it's. We did a great job. So you know we haven't forgotten. We never celebrate.

Speaker 3:

So we will never know.

Speaker 2:

Forget, matthew, and in all honesty, the other officers who gave their lives also. They still have a ceremony for them on the anniversary of their end of watch also, and you know, even that's. Some of those are 60 years old but they still have, you know, and in their museum they have a thing a tribute to all of them also. So have you ever been to the museum there? It's a fire and police museum in at the headquarters, very Interesting and some really neat stuff in there. You know the history of Burbank it was it's probably only second to the historical society as far as you know having a lot of neat stuff.

Speaker 1:

You know it's specific to the police and fire department.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Okay, now to your best, your favorite committee.

Speaker 2:

Well, please, please, question. Had a meeting, three items on a agenda and all three where? Well, thank you very much. Nothing to report to the council that's gonna recommend the city council. Nothing to you know.

Speaker 3:

Policy change, the police department but wait a minute, I want a drumroll.

Speaker 2:

I want a second. We have that for you.

Speaker 3:

Well, craig, you didn't know about this, did you?

Speaker 1:

know I've heard it from last week. I listened to last week's podcast, the plea.

Speaker 3:

The police commission Didn't have three reports. One of them was on mail fraud.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no theft, no theft and.

Speaker 3:

They did not make a recommendation to the council, but having them put it on their agenda. The police department has now on their webpage a flyer. It's something, some tips, some tips we got to give them credit, getting it on their website on their fly on the police website but it's there and if you watch that meeting you did not know that the federal agencies post office don't take care of it?

Speaker 2:

No, they take reports. Well, they do, but I don't take reports on single incidents, they just don't care. But I multi, a multi, yeah, yeah, only the big stuff. So if, if you get things stolen out of your mailbox, things like, don't call a post office, they just don't care all the police.

Speaker 1:

They'll take a theft report yeah. And I really don't want it or it can be a Regularly report. Right if they come into an apartment?

Speaker 2:

building. They said a bunch of the selection. There's only 17 reports made, so it's not a huge that seemed really, really low.

Speaker 1:

It might have old department. That was one day.

Speaker 2:

One apartment building was 17 we once had a my Burbank checks stolen out of the mailbox and to click post office and One of the things I did was I went into post office to make a complaint. They said it happens all the time.

Speaker 3:

Well, we have had more recently, and our commissioner Ramek brought it up because his office is right there at the Chamber of Commerce. We did not get paid from the chamber for months and I kept calling and going Ross and.

Speaker 2:

I kept calling them.

Speaker 3:

Where's that check? You guys tell me that you paid us and we haven't gotten it. And they argued with me. Well, and then one day she called and sent me a copy of that check and it was not endorsed by me. Nope, and it wasn't. It didn't have our endorsement stamp. And we learned the PO box right outside the chamber when she put it mailbox at, the P? Oh box. I'm sorry, you're correct, the post office of box.

Speaker 2:

I'm when fishing.

Speaker 3:

They went fishing in there and then somebody across the street, who is also a chamber member, one day was talking to the chamber and said we had some mail stolen and we put it in this box. You guys have cameras looking at this box. Oh sure, shitting enough. That's the box that they somebody's been hitting on a regular basis. Well, that's.

Speaker 2:

I hear the box at Magnolia and Griffith Park. It's hit a lot. I've had people actually send us a little, you know.

Speaker 3:

So we were a victim of the crime of somebody endorsing a check for but to the chamber report at the police department. Yes, they did I went in to recall, I had to sign an affidavit and we never received that money.

Speaker 2:

Do we please you part of it please?

Speaker 3:

good. The bank did the full follow-up. So it's a crime that you know what folks these I always say these are crimes of opportunity and If you watched how they do it, it's just.

Speaker 2:

I should show the video of a guy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but I don't want people to go. You know, tell me how I did it.

Speaker 2:

No, you know, the police department gave a step-by-step video tutorials.

Speaker 1:

No tutorial.

Speaker 3:

It's all run like burglars carry screwdrivers in their socks and people can't see it. But now.

Speaker 1:

But the fishing is one thing where they String with gum or something on it, they slip down into the blue mailboxes and pull something out and they've, or they can go in an apartment building and break into a whole.

Speaker 3:

Oh bank bank, bank of and what they try to do is they'll take a check and they'll wash it, what they call wash it. Yeah, they'll either add a number to it or, like in our case, we don't know how much it was deposited for.

Speaker 2:

I make a hundred dollar check and do a summer hour check ever make a check out the cash?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but they also but you know, what they also pointed out, craig, was gift cards. When people send these Visa cards that are worth cash to relatives, oh, go buy your, you know, a new sweater here it is.

Speaker 1:

that's what they're trying to, and there's there are actually a lot of Scams out there, usually on the telephone or by email, where they'll pretend to be a government agency or something the FBI. You owe you know five thousand dollars in back taxes. We're gonna put an arrest warrant out for you if you don't send us a thousand dollars in Macy's gift. Yeah you go, but I can't tell you.

Speaker 3:

A lot of people fall for my mother will go and get the gift cards and you know what the elderly, my mom, mostly the elderly she got a call that my niece was in jail Yep, and they had my niece's voice and my group. My mother panicked and didn't tell anybody she was gonna wire the money. Well, they get caught off guard.

Speaker 1:

They think it's the voice of their daughter or grandchild or whatever, and all they'll have you do is they don't want the gift card, they want you to go get them and then give them the numbers. Yep, and then in the wind, in the wind. So there's your safety agency is ever gonna ask you for payment and gift cards.

Speaker 3:

Trust me yeah and also, I think no law enforcement agency is ever gonna call you and demand money. The same with Burbank water and power. That's a normal scam. They are not gonna tell you we're gonna come turn your power off today unless you give us that money. They do not operate that way. Especially, people are very vulnerable during the holiday season. Yes, and we're coming up to the holiday season.

Speaker 1:

We're here. We can almost see a whole.

Speaker 3:

Show your your wallets, your purses going into buying your Thanksgiving groceries. I mean, there is just a ton of scams. That is the season.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, years ago. I haven't written a check in years because I just it's all digital to me and I thought you said you were gonna say you didn't know how and they also. I did go to Burbank schools, remember. Then also I Actually stopped even carrying credit cards to a point with me. It's all my phone. I picked the car card, my phone, I put my fingerprint in and it gets paid to my credit card through the phone. So that way I'm not gonna be a credit card that they can.

Speaker 1:

One of our advertising your phone.

Speaker 2:

Well, they have to get my get into it somehow.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm saying don't you, don't lose a phone, don't be able to buy one of our one of our advertisers Media City Credit Union.

Speaker 3:

They had an article. If you go on my Burbank and do a little search there on ways, because they know their customers are getting hit left and right, yeah with these different scams.

Speaker 1:

You know what everybody's distracted over the holidays the motions are high, people are busy running around, there's a lot of money being spent, so they're they're much more vulnerable to these kind of scams knowing.

Speaker 2:

You know, we were all Burbank people and there's been a long time. We're pretty people, are pretty trusting to start with and we don't think about the bad things that can happen. We really don't. You know. We think everybody's honest and everybody's worth right not the case we. I'm talking about the average homeowner, Okay.

Speaker 3:

I'll admit I I'm. I will admit. The other day I Took off to go work on holiday in the park. I took out two trips to my car, got in my car and Left and came home 12 hours later my back door was wide open, wide open. I.

Speaker 1:

I, you leave it open or I don't remember I Panicked at the time.

Speaker 3:

I walked in very cautiously. My dog was in her crate. There was another pile that I was gonna grab that was sitting right next to the door that I never took with me and I had to think there. I checked every room, I checked my lock. You know where stuff was. Nothing was a moved. But talk, talk about really feeling. I said to myself we live in a safe community, but I'll tell you, you just get your brain gets busy. I left my back door open the whole day and all night. Thank goodness it's not easy, accessible, that you could just walk off the street. But it blew me away that.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad my refrigerator beeps after a while if I leave the refrigerator. Because, I do that all.

Speaker 2:

I do that and I get a little my phone too.

Speaker 3:

You guys with your electronics. I wish I it's a refrigerator.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Bought a big block of ice. He has to get the bottom.

Speaker 3:

I was really embarrassed when I walked home the other day. I had to think about it. But you know I shorts on. I'll tell you, I I couldn't believe that. I I did that. I took the truck, I turned on my dog three times and I said why didn't you tell me I left the door open? You know.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna tell you a little secret. Yeah, as a coach I used to use in baseball the time I. The human brain can only think of one thing at a time. It's impossible to think of more than one thing. I used to always ask the kids. I'd say, okay, I want you to think of a pink elephant. Get that in your mind, Think of a pink elephant.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's do it an exercise together there we go.

Speaker 2:

Think of that pink elephant, get in your mind. There it is.

Speaker 1:

Think it, you're thinking.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and then when everybody's thinking about it and they got the eyes closed and they're thinking pink elephant and they're thinking how stupid is this, but I'm thinking pink elephant I would ask them okay, now answer out loud. What did you have for breakfast this morning?

Speaker 1:

Pink elephant.

Speaker 2:

And they'd all yell their answers cereal eggs, all those things, I go. Well, when you said that, why weren't you thinking of the pink elephant then? And they learn you can only think of one thing, so you can't worry about you know, when you got your and you had Holly in the park and you were one of the board members and one of the guys running it and that was on your mind, so you can't remember every. So when people do make those mistakes, it's not because they're you know, they're just not responsible.

Speaker 1:

it's because sometimes there's more on your mind, we're not as good at multitasking as we think we are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, and, but now I've got nothing but pink elephants on my mind.

Speaker 3:

There you go. That's funny, because you guys are thinking of pink elephants and I was thinking of a yellow one. Well, you're colorblind. Oh that's good.

Speaker 1:

Where do you have to go to the bathroom again?

Speaker 3:

Oh ch ch ch Ah so moving on, oh we kind of covered Thursday already.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, we could combine that.

Speaker 1:

We did combine that I've had enough of the oh, big wrap up. Big wrap up for Friday.

Speaker 2:

But, by the way, one final wrap on the school board. Oh boy, I got an email from the superintendent, john Peramo, who wants to go out and meet with us and talk and sound like a very good, similar, great email and more than willing to go out and we'll have a conversation with him and I really I appreciate that and I think he's trying to solve some problems.

Speaker 3:

Well, you and I talked about it. He came to us. He has some new administrators, yeah.

Speaker 2:

He just dropped back to Oscar Macias, which I had to answer for him.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, oscar is on board now and I think I have been told by other sources outside, you know that give him a couple of months for him to spread his wings, and I think one of them is he wants to have open communications with the media, and we are the one. We are the media town.

Speaker 2:

Well, he's responding to me every time. Send him an email. I'm hoping that you know it's a prosperous meeting. I know that. And as much as they want to blame school boards, this was not this school board. To broaden, the last superintendent, the last superintendent, had never spent a day in a classroom, his entire career, never had been an administrator's entire career, and suddenly he was a superintendent at Birdbank Schools. So if things went a little bit to the left, you blame our, a former board. I don't blame the superintendent because he did what he thought was probably right, but that board who brought somebody with no experience kind of set us on a bad path. Now they're all out, they're gone. We have a new superintendent who has had experience in the classroom, who's been a principal of schools, so let's, we're gonna give him a, we're gonna give him an opportunity, you know, and I appreciate him reaching out and we're going to try to work with him. I think that's the best for everybody, you know, because they have that bond measure coming up and we'll talk about that too. So, okay, moving on to Friday. Oh, it's a Friday. Last week was a busy week.

Speaker 1:

Well, we're 50 minutes in and this was gonna be a half hour show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah well, don't worry, next week's gonna make up for it. Right, here we go. So Friday night was the big event in Birdbank that everybody waits for year in, year out, and I think, ross, you said around 30,000 people maybe were there. We're talking about Holiday in the Park, which was many new what once again? once again bigger and better, Many new things that didn't have the past, starting with a street shutdown at 8am instead of at 4pm or noon or whatever. So I thought it was organized very well, it was run very well. I did not talk to anybody there who did not enjoy the night, in fact. By the way, thank you to all the people who walked up and said, hey, listen to the podcast, or you know, and I was kind of blown away. I'm going really, did people actually list of this thing? I go what's wrong with you?

Speaker 1:

Everybody thought they were gonna meet me. Yeah exactly, I wasn't there.

Speaker 3:

Well, we did have a couple of our sports writers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they were there. Excellent, they were there, we were represented.

Speaker 2:

I didn't see any city officials, but yeah, they were there. Well, I didn't, nobody walked by the table and said hi, but I you might've been busy talking to somebody, but they were there. But they probably saw me and said I'll stay away from that guy.

Speaker 3:

But I did see our assistant city attorney. City manager, you mean, no city attorney. Our assistant city attorney? Yes, Jill Vandervoort was standing. Well, she actually 12 feet away from you. I saw. No, she was there with her husband. Yeah, I know, I have a picture and we talked Her 10 feet away from you. Well is she with you now.

Speaker 1:

I have a picture to prove it, so I sense a recap coming.

Speaker 2:

So Ross, why don't you run down the event force? Why don't you put those three hours in the next five minutes?

Speaker 1:

Oh, good luck.

Speaker 3:

Well, you know, we did start off a little earlier this year. We had a lot more things that we had accomplished. Thank goodness that a lot of people don't realize there's only five or six of us on the whole committee that makes this event go by. And Ashley Erickson we had hired at Magnolia Park, merchants hired her to produce this show or this event, and she is a great event planner. You did a great, great job. There are a lot, a lot of things that go on. You gotta deal with city, gotta deal with closing the street, gotta deal with health inspectors. You gotta worry about where the porta-potties are gonna go. You gotta worry about you know I can go, the list goes on and goes on. But I will tell you the best part of the whole night and I have done this now for I don't know 10 years Seeing all the smile on faces, the kids, you know, posing in front of the antique police car, the people that kept asking me where are the antique cars and I had to say just walk west. The kids that went on stage our city PIO's daughter was on stage and I got to run into Jonathan and his wife.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he actually came by and said hi and got to meet his daughter. Here's the city official, that's right that's the city official.

Speaker 3:

I got to want one.

Speaker 2:

And he actually wanted to talk to me.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know he, you guys talked to me a little baseball.

Speaker 2:

Go diamondbacks. Yeah, he's a big diamondbacks fan.

Speaker 3:

I know, but you know the event. I tell you people say, well, how did he get those numbers? Our assistant city manager, our new assistant city manager, who used to be the police administrator, she's real good with numbers and I asked her, standing next to the chief, how many people were here and she said I'd say about 25 to 30,000. And that's what I drove by in that golf cart of that little machine. I was riding on lawnmower, it felt like it. All I know is I kept beeping that horn and people started hating me.

Speaker 2:

That thing was about 30 feet off the ground too, wasn't it?

Speaker 3:

I'll tell you you look at your own float. There were. It was just the drove and drove of people Power trip. We, I hear two food vendors ran out of food. The hot dog vendor ran out of hot dogs, hortos Hortos ran out of cookies. Oh, no, not the humanity?

Speaker 1:

What shut it down?

Speaker 3:

This year due to health reasons, and a lot of people are asking why Hortos had to wrap each cookie they gave away. That's why we couldn't have Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts and a lot of the teams not give out food.

Speaker 2:

It's a LA County health, la County health, but when these health rules get, didn't they have these health rules last year or the year before?

Speaker 3:

No, these are all brand new rules. A lot of them are brand new.

Speaker 2:

We had a health inspector on site at five o'clock to check and I think, in all honesty, that they need to change these rules to make them a little more flexible. For one night events in situations like this, community events I mean to ask a booth to spend money on flooring, running water and everything else they needed to have to be able to sell a cookie or something.

Speaker 3:

Well, you know what, I get it. But if you think about it, you have an event this big, you have food being made. You don't know where it's made, you don't know the precautions people take.

Speaker 2:

It's just, I get it, we're in that stage now, but didn't you say earlier what happened of all these street vendors especially? In LA that's where we have tacos on the corner, and they set up their little kitchen on the corner.

Speaker 3:

On every corner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, where's the health department out there to site them?

Speaker 3:

I agree Some of the things that we learned and people have already told us. I understand that the driving down Clark or driving down Chandler was an animal, that we will bring that up. People don't understand A hire a traffic engineer who works at lights and intersections via computer. He doesn't do that free. This event costs us $98,000 to put on $98,000 that we raised to put it on folks.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna say I'll give you a third of that right.

Speaker 3:

Yes, they paid for a lot of the safety.

Speaker 2:

Our police department, but still it's only a third of it.

Speaker 3:

That's right. So, people, when you understand how you have to do things, you have to do things that are not going to be done. But I can tell you next year's gonna go on. We're gonna start our committee meetings come February.

Speaker 2:

I hear that there will be a Ferris Wheel back. I hear there will be hot chocolate. Do we have breaking news? Ferris Wheel make a return.

Speaker 1:

We have breaking news. It sounds like that bear.

Speaker 2:

It's like you're trying to start your engine the other day.

Speaker 3:

That was supposed to be a teletype.

Speaker 2:

That is a teletype.

Speaker 3:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

But no what you asked for the Ferris.

Speaker 1:

Wheel making a return, we will have the Ferris.

Speaker 3:

Wheel next year Instead of the crushed snow that is so unsafe but we might extend it a block or two we're gonna get more food trucks. The person who's gonna be running it says he believes in more food trucks. So I just found out. I wonder if people knew Morrison's has a food truck. What they asked me today. How do you ask me? How do we get involved? Morrison's was slammed from the crowd that was leaving holidaying the park going down to Morrison's.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'll give you a personal suggestion right now. I know you wanna extend a little farther down, but let's face it once you hit Catalina, you really don't have any businesses, or really public businesses. Why not extend it down toward Pass Avenue and still let Hollywood Way be through traffic and have a police there and wave people across at the signals?

Speaker 3:

Because Hollywood Way is considered a major thoroughfare.

Speaker 2:

Right and I think close.

Speaker 1:

It's a big intersection.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I didn't say close Hollywood, I just said it would be too hard.

Speaker 1:

It's rather like closing all of you gotta do traffic control. It's a big intersection.

Speaker 3:

We could go east the car show. There's a lot of businesses but there's a car show that can go a block east the church. There we had complaints we get. You wouldn't believe the complaints we get.

Speaker 2:

You wouldn't believe the complaints we get, you wouldn't believe the complaints we get. You know that'd be nice to support the businesses down Hollywood Way a little farther.

Speaker 3:

Well like quite a few of them.

Speaker 2:

We're down Hollywood Way. I'm talking, I know you a little farther.

Speaker 3:

Quite a few of them, like Gary Dance Studio, came in and used Worcester Walk Church for their kids to perform.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, I was wondering what's going on, because we heard that a lot of people are to watch, but they ended about 7.30 and then that was it. They closed the place down.

Speaker 3:

Well, most of those kids that danced Gary Dance Studio are pretty young. That's why, Then, we had another stage. That was in the B of A parking lot that I hear Clint Howard, his daughter, perform there.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we had that podcast and he was talking about it.

Speaker 3:

She performed and even Clint Howard got on stage and spoke. There you go. We had Tim Conway Jr show up. The ex-official of the ex-official, the ex-official mayor of Magnolia Park.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he's no longer the official mayor.

Speaker 3:

Well, I make him the official mayor, Okay, so you know what We'll see you next year, Everybody. You know it kicks off the holiday spirit and I will say that.

Speaker 2:

You know, I thought it was very well done, I thought you know. Congratulations to Ashley, to you and your board. I thought it was very professionally run. I thought every I heard not one complaint and, trust me, everybody would come to me and complain if there was a complaint.

Speaker 1:

If people hardly knew what went into organizing something like this? Oh, as you know, we've got a little bit of a behind the scenes look along the way here.

Speaker 2:

When did you finally get your permit to run this thing Tomorrow? When did the city actually issue the permit?

Speaker 3:

Thursday at six in the morning.

Speaker 2:

Thursday at six in the morning, and the event was when Friday at. So 18 hours right now, 20, 30 hours before the event they got their permit.

Speaker 3:

Plenty of time, plenty of time, gonna be all worked out, we're told, by next year.

Speaker 1:

I missed a lot this week To be in out of town one week. Look how much I missed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you A whole hour's worth, but you got to see the bears. I got to see what the polar bears I identify as a polar bear A bear Well, okay, well, I think that's it for the week that was. I think we'll now pause for a quick break and we'll be back with you in about 30 seconds.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Okay, here we are back with you again.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the mics are up.

Speaker 2:

The mics are up. Wait a minute.

Speaker 3:

The mics are up. We printed this scam schedule out. When do we flip pages? I don't know. Now, I don't know. Wait, we're on page two of three or three or five.

Speaker 2:

When do we start?

Speaker 1:

actually, it's going on here.

Speaker 2:

We have two-sided pages. You mean, when do we start trying to actually save paper? Do our part for the planet.

Speaker 1:

Is that what we're doing?

Speaker 2:

The recycling center and not wasting 300 sheets of paper.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's pretty funny, because when we have eight pages and we do threes, that's a plus.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's crazy Because we have to print it so big so we can actually read it.

Speaker 2:

We got the new printer and I didn't realize. A printer automatically prints on two sides instead of one. Who knew, who knew, who knew? Yeah, craig Sherrod, back with you, with Craig Dirling, welcome back. And, of course, ross Benson, and we're back with you for the Wait a minute.

Speaker 3:

I put the hat on and I'm supposed to say something. That's the same I got. It looks like a car.

Speaker 1:

I look at you talk about multi-dash.

Speaker 3:

Wow, that's difficult.

Speaker 1:

I like it.

Speaker 2:

I can drink. Yeah, see, I take the label off the water, so you have no idea if that's really well, they're not a sponsor, it could be water. It could be something else.

Speaker 1:

Any guesses out there? You'd have a contest for that.

Speaker 2:

Well, we want to thank you. Oh, by the way, last week's winner, the word for the word Ferris wheel, was Jonathan Archer, which we you know. Jonathan, please send us your address and we'll be glad to send your an archer give card to you.

Speaker 1:

What was it? You remember what the word of the week? Ferris wheel, that's two words. Well, it's a hyphenated. It could be, hyphenated. It could be hyphenated, so Alright, jonathan, we will buy us lunch.

Speaker 2:

Yet we still, we still have a. A word hasn't been spoken yet. So when we hear the you got a state. You never know when that word Is going to be said for this week's word of the week but it will be here eventually, oh.

Speaker 3:

Somewhere, oh, but not till for a couple more. I don't know, you never know. You have to know it could be later.

Speaker 2:

And what?

Speaker 1:

do they? What do they get if they, if they get the word again?

Speaker 2:

It's a $25 $25 dollar certificate to Hill Street Cafe.

Speaker 1:

Very nice, very nice, and we'll give you instructions and if the word is revealed, using on Monday, you can get there amazing tomato bisque soup.

Speaker 2:

Oh, homemade, homemade.

Speaker 1:

And all the everything. The rest of the restaurant made.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, that's how the health department would probably come and slap them to made it home.

Speaker 1:

Never know, yeah, you never know. All right, monday, monday, well, today, today, the 20th.

Speaker 2:

The transportation committee met at 5 pm and they reviewed the 23 24 Burbank bus figures coming up. They also saw that coming in money coming in was they're getting 2.6 million from propa, 2.9 million from prop C and 677,000 for measure are the in their budget for the 22 23 year was 6 million 350,000 they received now. I Think that equals what $580 per rider or we spend or something. I don't just buy people limo, limo's and drive them around when they want to go somewhere.

Speaker 1:

And who said you weren't good at math?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the even take his shoes off right, don't think, goodness, ah you it did.

Speaker 1:

You got an advocate and dollars are very good right. Yeah, the.

Speaker 2:

Buses. They drive around these massive buses. You know, you look at these little the Metro, what they call the Metro minis, metro minis, okay, and they probably see a 15 people or so. Why don't we get those, you know? Why don't we get smaller buses and run them around?

Speaker 1:

It's never seen a full Burbank bus. Have you ever seen a full?

Speaker 3:

way.

Speaker 2:

You know what.

Speaker 3:

Hanging on to the yes I have when they go. I think they use the bus to transport kids to go to a fair or something.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so the first school events, things like that they do no, no, no, no no some.

Speaker 2:

Other event. Ross has no idea, just talking about it. They don't use those buses for anything except for making stuff up personal limousine service make about it over there.

Speaker 3:

They don't use gasoline.

Speaker 2:

What do they use?

Speaker 3:

Are we supposed to be here?

Speaker 2:

You know, use gas, one of the use natural gas.

Speaker 3:

Are you sure about that? Yes, because they got to go to that special Station on Lake Street to fill up. Oh, okay, wait.

Speaker 2:

Cng. See, and there you go. Cng, which stands for you, see it, you go G.

Speaker 1:

See natural press. And then there's LPG, the court, petroleum prevention.

Speaker 2:

No see, you see well, look at that we're doing no you're doing a great job informing community.

Speaker 1:

Night we're all 67 minutes in and we've gone off the rails.

Speaker 2:

Well, the point being is that they they claimed in September 15,000 people rode Burbank bus now is that way.

Speaker 3:

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Is that how many rode it, or is that how many? They passed Well?

Speaker 1:

yeah, that include the drivers. I.

Speaker 2:

I just, I just, I'm sorry 50 once again. Every pre-production meeting we sit at Patty's restaurant, which we love to do.

Speaker 1:

We were there a spot?

Speaker 2:

We're there for like seven to eight, thirty years in that area for an hour and a half we see probably Five, six Burbank bus today.

Speaker 3:

He stopped across the street so we didn't have to count the people inside with a movement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah well, it's hard. It's hard to count past 180.

Speaker 1:

I think it looks like more I.

Speaker 2:

Mean, we're lucky. We see three people on about out of three out of six buses Go by now. How do you get 15,000? Maybe it's a little more, I don't know. But we need smaller buses, we need to spend less money on them. We need to get trolleys.

Speaker 3:

There's a trolley. Ding ding. Where's the trolley?

Speaker 2:

up in San Francisco.

Speaker 3:

No, I had an idea for a trolley that I gave away a long time ago.

Speaker 2:

Well, and I'm still waiting for didn't Bob fruit just make that his idea?

Speaker 3:

Well, he tried to. Yeah, who was the original on?

Speaker 2:

that one, ross, wanted to have trolleys in.

Speaker 1:

Burbank. Are you on the? Are you on the record?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I put him on the record in the past. You did. Oh, I have, and.

Speaker 3:

Look at you've ever heard of that the car place over there on Empire. What's the name of it If that does all those fancy cars? Oh, West Coast, well, that's the place.

Speaker 1:

West Coast custom trolleys, let's give him some money.

Speaker 2:

Or about the guy that does the police wrapping Well, but he only wraps Well. That's how you do, is you you build? Oh no, let's get the trolleys anywhere, let's get what's his name to build a trolley, cng or whatever, or whatever our new gases.

Speaker 3:

But I've said, you know who wouldn't want to sit next to a Daffy?

Speaker 2:

duck, or you've already got ahead of yourself. So we get the trolleys, magnolia, different areas of the city, have them go back and forth. And then your idea was to contact, in the media, capital world. We have Disney, we have Warners and we, to a point, have universal about Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network. Thank you, we lose. This goes on DC characters and Warner Bros. Now we have sphere and you Well, gm's fear. There's no, they don't have cartoon characters.

Speaker 3:

Well, we could put their dome on top.

Speaker 2:

Wouldn't that be special.

Speaker 3:

I know when people want to pose.

Speaker 2:

Craig, you, you, you. You have a. Each trolley would have its own theme character and People would come from all over and say hey, I want to write on the Mickey Mouse trolley, I want to write on.

Speaker 1:

Then they won't go to Disneyland and spend a hundred you know Dollars to part like a rather did on the Superman trolley and take the trolley into the we got now.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if you caught last week's show. They're gonna put another statue in town right, you know, we got we got Wonder Woman. No, we got Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman. We have Batman.

Speaker 1:

We got Batman.

Speaker 2:

This is it's gonna be a green lantern, green lantern, not Superman, not, not, not somebody famous, just green lantern. But why can't we make a trolley.

Speaker 1:

We have a lantern. Gonna have a light like a green light.

Speaker 2:

How about Aquaman? You're pretty big movie out for Aquaman Put him in the pool. Why not? Why not have an Aquaman statue and put that same time to release the movie? Like Every day? Don't you ever notice and now I would Boulevard anytime if somebody's big movie comes out that stars all of a sudden Put his hands in the cement or whatever, or have a star made, or they always coincide it with release with a big movie. How about releasing a statue in marketing? Why, oh?

Speaker 3:

there you go. Who wouldn't want to come to Burbank and take the trolley around Burbank and then pose with you know, sponge Bob or any city tours?

Speaker 1:

No people come and take a city tour of Conaway wanted actually actually Call now call often, keep his calling.

Speaker 2:

You call Ross Benson. He'll be glad to take you on a personalized tour of the city of Burbank and tell you all the stuff that used to go on here. How many writers have we had?

Speaker 3:

I have taken city officials, I have taken writers and given them the Ross Benson tour. Just call 818 Benson.

Speaker 2:

There you go.

Speaker 3:

Oh, whoever has a thought I was gonna give his phone around, just that he.

Speaker 2:

I thought I'd look a panic.

Speaker 3:

I just turned. I think it was flushed.

Speaker 1:

Our producer wasn't ready on the trigger on that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm sorry, we did. I Was looking at I was actually looking at notes, like we had to do that again, or I'm gonna have to depart the room.

Speaker 1:

Okay, speaking of that, Well, major we on Three.

Speaker 2:

So, um well, the city council on Tuesday is dark. No more means this month. Well, although Steve Ferguson wants three city council members to get together and call a special meeting, that's right.

Speaker 3:

Three can't get together, can they know, three cannot get together when you play poker. How many guys do you have to have? Five? Maybe that's why the you can, only I don't forget it.

Speaker 1:

How about, so no city council on the 20 about the cheesy.

Speaker 3:

This we're any playing card Don't? What is Mike off? Lost it.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'll get the short bus for you.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what page run. He's long.

Speaker 2:

He's throwing papers everywhere. Moving to Wednesday we have absolutely nothing but you know what we have Thursday.

Speaker 3:

We're gonna cancel Wednesday. You know what. You know what we have Thursday.

Speaker 2:

I I believe it's our wait a minute.

Speaker 3:

Wait, wait a minute wait a minute, we're gonna have a. What are you gonna have with your?

Speaker 1:

your, your. What is a popular side dish?

Speaker 2:

I would have. We're gonna Thanksgiving and we're gonna have a great thing.

Speaker 3:

Well, my granddaughters have already requested all those. Okay, I got three cans of olives for my granddaughters. We're right.

Speaker 1:

Thank you Been to my house. Yeah for Thanksgiving. They get grandberries Anytime they get nothing Mashed potatoes my son's made is maybe some yams can, oh yeah, with the marshmallows on top and pumpkin pie at the end my granddaughter.

Speaker 3:

She already told me. I said do you like pumpkin pie? She's no, I don't like it. I said, what if it has whipped cream on? It says I like pumpkin pie and she has.

Speaker 2:

You know if you're tried pumpkin pie.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, but I you know what we, you know what my daughter-in-law makes so good?

Speaker 2:

What's the? What are some of the sides we have with?

Speaker 3:

my granddaughter. She makes the best cranberry oh.

Speaker 2:

Yatsy, I guess it Cranberry cranberry sauce and jelly.

Speaker 1:

We had both. Right, we had the cranberry jelly that had the whole Cranberries in it still, and the and the sauce, or one or the other.

Speaker 2:

Can't? It just sits up right in both kinds of power.

Speaker 1:

Don't comes out of the can like that.

Speaker 2:

We need sound effects.

Speaker 1:

The leading tower of cranberry cranberry, jelly cranberry, but cranberry Is it's our word of the week the word of the week. So you made it this far. You're a rock star. You made it 74 minutes in, but you got it. Cranberry is the word of the week. And what do they do with that information?

Speaker 2:

send us an email to contest at my burbankcom and put the word cranberry and also send your address so we can send you the card and we will pick a winner and we will notify you on next week's show of who won and that is picked at at random right. Well, we do. You take all, all the entries, and let's say there's 17 entries, I'll go to Alexa, I'll say A random number between 117 and whatever numbers they pick, that's it. That's the winner.

Speaker 1:

They come in the order that they came in, so you can get yourself a darn good meal or a couple At hillstree cafe for and I bet you rocks, believe me, if you go next thursday, which they're open, they'll have cranberries on there.

Speaker 2:

I hear that. I hear that they're gonna have a really special turkey meal, though.

Speaker 1:

Yep, so a turkey dinner, hot turkey dinner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hot turkey dinner In fact. Uh, I would actually call them in advance and probably place an order in advance, maybe, if you're interested. You know, I mean, a lot of people go to tally ran, which has a great turkey dinner also, but the people up in the hill. There's an alternative for you, you know. You don't know. It may not be a lot of waiting either. You might be able to get in, to get out a lot quicker, right?

Speaker 1:

so I wonder if you already have emails coming in from people watching the live.

Speaker 2:

Well, I have to go in and look at the thicker tape.

Speaker 1:

We'll find out. We'll find out, good luck.

Speaker 2:

And I'll see if anything's coming in. Yet not something on the sewing machine.

Speaker 1:

Is that a?

Speaker 3:

sewing machine. What is that? Well, if you have recovered from the tryptophan already, we got friday rolling around.

Speaker 1:

But by the day after the leftovers, by the way they've actually done scientifically.

Speaker 2:

They said there's no connection between eating turkey and Falling asleep.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it's a good excuse.

Speaker 2:

It's a good excuse. I think we can fall asleep. You're just full.

Speaker 1:

I just can't help myself. I need a nap.

Speaker 3:

I need to loosen my belt already.

Speaker 1:

No, don't do it now. You got in trouble once before.

Speaker 2:

We got black friday, and then you know.

Speaker 1:

The camera is in the joint.

Speaker 2:

What a great day to go and visit Magnolia park merchant somewhere or another store in burbank, and shop local.

Speaker 1:

You get the holidays coming up or get amazon shop local, that's right.

Speaker 2:

And that brings us to the weekend, which is absolutely empty, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

It is the holiday season, things get pretty quiet.

Speaker 3:

I would say the weather is supposed to be what? The weather, the wind. You'll be raking leaves on Saturday.

Speaker 1:

We play your wig right off your head but now is coming my after the word of the week, my favorite part of the show.

Speaker 2:

This is it. This is what people actually have waited now at 77 minutes, and and we don't have a jingle yet for this.

Speaker 1:

Do I have to do it again? That's a good idea we have. Ross is right, ross is right. Hey, hey, it's, ross is right up Whistle you sound like Wayne's world. Whistle. All right, ross.

Speaker 2:

Okay, ross, time for your us, let's have it.

Speaker 3:

All right, I Tell you my rant. This week I'm driving eastbound Magnolia Over the Magnolia overpass, continuing up the San Fernando road. I'm behind a car. I decided to just stop Because the passenger didn't know it was an Uber, didn't know it was one of these ride-sharing vehicles, had let out three people to go to the mall in the middle of the lane. My rant is why do these people just randomly stop? Or here's another one I ran into today. Almost I use Scott road quite a bit. He's Amazon drivers. It just stopped in the middle of the road out of their vehicle and run into a house. So you PS drivers, I'll tell you they're gonna get killed On a little lane like Scott road you're going to go around. Yeah, that's that suicide coming at you. But I don't get it. Where do they get this permission to just stop randomly in the road?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you or I were to stop in the road three words get a ticket.

Speaker 1:

lack of enforcement oh, that's it.

Speaker 2:

Yep, now I'll be honest with you. I this came up, I Want to say, five or ten years ago, and I actually Went to the police department. I ask I go, why are delivery trucks allowed to park, double park in traffic lanes like UPS drive back? There was no Amazon drivers and they said, well, we do, we allow it? And I go, yeah, but why? Why do you? Why do you allow it? I don't know. A lot of them say no double parking unless you're driving a brown truck. I Mean you know you were. You were involved in enforcement. Yeah, what do you remember from those days about when it comes to I?

Speaker 1:

spent many years specializing in commercial traffic enforcement for trucks, things like that, as there's materials but so I dealt with trucks all the time. Delivery drivers and the law actually allowed for delivery vehicles to double park, so whatever lane is next to the parked vehicles, they can stop there to load on load. What I ran into all the time.

Speaker 2:

Let me ask you this what? What constitutes a delivery vehicle? I mean, what can't say, we can't a Now an Uber driver bring your food to you, say oh yeah, I'm delivering food. So is he legally? Is he legal I legally allowed to double park? I?

Speaker 1:

would. I would read the section you know, the California vehicle code section again to be sure I see how specific it is. But it might be that loose, you know you may fall into the category. But what we saw a lot of, I ran into a lot of time, was especially car carriers, but UPS and delivery trucks they park in the two-way left turn lane in the middle of the street. Yeah, you have the solid line and the and the dub and the dashed line. Well, that's not a parking lane, it's not a median strip, unless those lines are both solid. But it's a turn lane so people can get in and out of drive. They can exit the traffic to turn left into driveways or garages and or exit a driveway or garage to merge back into traffic. It's not a median strip, it is. It is not a parking lane, a delivery lane, and it does. And Ross, you made a good point. It is dangerous for the drivers because they have to now cross traffic. Hop out of the side of a vehicle may be in a blind spot for a driver and now drivers have to negotiate this. That technically is is not allowed. That would be. It could be a fall into a lot of sections. But what I, what I experienced over the years, was so many cities don't Enforce it because they don't want to deal with commercial traffic, they don't want to deal with trucks. They they think they fall under some certain codes. Um, that don't that they don't know what to do with, but they fall under any anything. A car can't do what you know many times a delivery truck can't do. But because so many cities choose not to enforce commercial vehicle traffic, then they find themselves in a city where they do enforce it. But now they've built bad habits because, oh, I had five police cars pass me in the last city when I was doing the same thing and they didn't say anything to me.

Speaker 3:

Well it's so I know enforcement creates these bad habits.

Speaker 1:

So they think, oh, a police car drove by me and didn't say anything, it must be legal, so I'm gonna go ahead and do, it must be okay, and then. So. Then that's why you see what you see with UPS trucks and all that. There are some exemptions here and there, but as a general rule, the lack of enforcement creates the bad habits, you know I, and that's a whole.

Speaker 2:

That's a whole separate comment. Subjection itself do a whole show how many laws do we have in the books that just don't get enforced? And I'll give you a great example During the pandemic, there were certain laws about Wearing masks and businesses and those kind of things. And I'm not having and are the sheriff of LA, kansas. We're not gonna force those laws, we're just not gonna force them. So now, why can he pick and choose? Was it a law though? Yes, it was, it was an actual Part of law actually was. It was an order, a county order.

Speaker 1:

That's not a law.

Speaker 2:

I don't know the county, but so so zone ordinance horn flats had to abide by the ordinance or they got.

Speaker 1:

I remember the. I remember, at the time going through it, the, the the Interpretation of the mask Regulations recommendations. That's a bad example enforcement no, but I get you your point.

Speaker 2:

your point is there's a law that you can't remove a shopping cart the business from business premises, but yet how many homeless people and I Are pushing shopping cars down the street. Who's saying theft?

Speaker 1:

is technically that's theft. You know a shop?

Speaker 2:

a cop car cost about seven hundred dollars. And guess who pays for that? Well, that's why your grocery bill went up an extra forty cents, because but you know.

Speaker 1:

So why are you giliani gets credit for the quote often the theory, but the broken window theory. You let the little things go and it cascades into bigger and bigger and bigger. Bigger things get, start getting ignored. So you know and Burbank was always really good at that, was paying attention to the details, those little things, those little quality of life issues. They didn't let those slide because all that does is progress into bigger, bigger problem. Yep.

Speaker 2:

There's a go and not to. You know I actually might have my elbow never healed from time myself in the back. But you know Burbank has a lot of ordinances. One of the ordinances was you could had not have a newspaper rack on the street In front of a painted curve. It was a Burbank ordinance on the books. If you think of Bob's big boy, there were 17 17 around the front and and you know, and half of them you know I get daily times or whatever back then I get it but laugh, you know half were. You know porn magazines and free magazines and and so I went to the city and I said, why are you not enforcing this? And I started to make a big deal about it and they made all these companies come out and remove them all and you know what that was and remove the blight. There are a lot of areas and now you don't see those anymore. Yeah, we have ordinances such you can't. They can't have billboards in Burbank. The ones you see were either grandfathered in before the order was passed or they're on Railroad property. The ones on Chandler, that's actually railroad property, not city of Burbank property. So they can't that federal Trump's city.

Speaker 3:

It's funny because we talked about that prior to the show. Right, there's a. There's a billboard at the corner of mayor. I know, you, know, you and Clyburn, that was turned.

Speaker 2:

The base of it was in LA right but the hung over the city Burbank property line.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and there was somebody in Burbank that made them Turned the bird yeah so that is, whose property is that? Remember, it's a famous singer who owns Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder, that's right, he owns that and he collects rent from that billboard. Oh yeah, big time. But they had to move it out of Burbank.

Speaker 1:

How did we get onto that? Well, I just look at letting the little things go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm just saying things like that, you know selective enforcement right. You can't have. You know, car lots and markets can't have screamers in her parking lots. There's a lot of little that Burbank has which they pretty much enforced. You you can't have. You can't put banners up in your, in your store window without a permit. There's, I mean, not went in your window, but I'm in front of your business. You can't put temporary. Yeah, there's a lot of and we try to and sometimes that doesn't get enforced so much as it used to. But there's a lot of things like that in Burbank and, like you said, if we don't stay on that stuff, then the city becomes looking like LA after a while, which is not why people laid runner into Burbank.

Speaker 1:

Bladescape from LA and all that, yeah, so stop in the middle of the street not to not to get to jump on your rant, ross, but yeah, it's hijacked his rant.

Speaker 2:

I think there's a lot of things that you know we need to always fix.

Speaker 1:

So pay attention to the little things. Burbank what keeps it Burbank?

Speaker 2:

It does. Yeah, I. For those who lived here for a long period of time, a pride in our city, who want to see the city, you know, maintain those standards.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I get it, you know well, you know, you always hear people say Burbank is different, you Visitors that come here, people that move here. There's something different and it's these little things, yeah, that make Burbank.

Speaker 2:

I'm on a school board all the time. I mean one less time a school was named a distinctive school. You tap it all the time like hard oh my heart elementary, yeah, hard elementary, it's Santa Crete. Oh guys, I want to.

Speaker 1:

I want to say I have a lot to be thankful this year for this year, and that includes both of you and and everybody out there. So thanks for a Give me something to do this year.

Speaker 3:

You know we do wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving and, and you know, think about even though.

Speaker 2:

You might or fellow pay a price for us, but you know it's a great holiday because it's not a holiday where you have to. You don't think you about presents, you don't have to spend money, you don't do it. It's just a holiday, it's not a hallmark holiday. Yeah, it's a, it's a reflection holiday. It's a holiday we get grateful. Family gets together and enjoys the day, basically be grateful.

Speaker 1:

We went through some trying and it just happens to be football on all day and now on black Friday too. The day after.

Speaker 3:

yes, yeah, we went through some really trying times the last couple years and be grateful we live in a fantastic city. I've said it before, I'll say it now and I'll say it tomorrow we're real fortunate being here in Burbank. Drive out. If you don't get out much, drive out and 50 miles from here and you'll see how, why you'll come back to Burbank real fast and as a as an organization, we are certainly thankful for our sponsors.

Speaker 1:

We're thankful our sponsors and you'll hear them all listed at the end of the show.

Speaker 2:

We're so thankful that we're gonna give it to you right now.

Speaker 1:

Give you a shout out.

Speaker 2:

Give you as we say goodbye for another dish Ross. Thank you for everything. See you later. Alligators.

Speaker 1:

Thank you once again. Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2:

Happy Thanksgiving everybody easy for you to say not easy and once again, please, please, do you know what? Until our sponsors, that you heard them on my burger, you know, and that helps us and they know that supporting us is important. So, once again, thank you and happy Thanksgiving to everybody.

Speaker 1:

My Burbank talks would like to thank all of my Burbank's advertisers for their continued support Her bank, water and power to Shimano real estate group, you me. Credit you her bank, chamber of commerce, gain credit union Providence, st Joseph Medical Center, community, chevrolet Media City. Credit you UCLA health, tequila's Burbank Logix. Credit you Hill Street cafe, hurtain Escobar wealth management and the UPS store on 3rd Street.

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Impact of Enforcement on City Standards
Thankful for Burbank Sponsors and Thanksgiving