myBurbank Talks

The Week That Was and That Will Be - November 6

November 07, 2023 Craig Sherwood, Craig Durling, Ross Benson Season 1 Episode 70
myBurbank Talks
The Week That Was and That Will Be - November 6
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The Burbank community, rich in stories of triumph and fraught with controversies, is a fascinating tapestry of narratives that reflect the complexity of our society. This podcast episode dives into these narratives, exploring the triumphs, challenges, and updates from this vibrant community.
 
 One of the heartwarming stories shared in this episode is the incredible journey of Patricia and Carlos, the owners of Tequila's Burbank. Despite their battle with cancer, their resilience has led them to create a positive ripple effect in the community. Their story, along with the Burbank Police Department's Pink Cruiser initiative, a symbol of support for cancer research, serves as a reminder of the power of community solidarity in the face of adversity.
 
 On a different note, the episode uncovers serious issues in the Burbank Unified District, shedding light on a troubling embezzlement case. The revelation of this incident underlines the importance of transparency and accountability within our educational institutions. The episode further delves into the steps being taken to restore trust, including the appointment of Dr. Oscar Macias as the Director of Secondary Education.
 
 Law enforcement updates are another significant focus of this episode. The Burbank Police Department's request for additional military equipment, ranging from drones to kinetic energy weapons, raises critical questions about their proposed uses, potential implications, and their effectiveness. The analysis of these developments provides an insightful perspective on the challenges and considerations inherent in modern law enforcement.
 
 In addition to law enforcement updates, the episode also discusses administrative changes within the Police Department. The appointment of a replacement for the outgoing administrator, Judy Wilke, signifies a shift in the department's leadership. This change, coupled with the Police Department's request for additional military equipment, underscores the evolving nature of law enforcement in Burbank.
 
 While discussing the various facets of the Burbank community, the episode also emphasizes the importance of staying informed and engaged. Whether it's through the 'Word of the Week' segment that encourages intellectual curiosity or through the comprehensive community updates, the podcast serves as a valuable resource for those seeking to understand the complexities of Burbank.
 
 From the courageous battle of Patricia and Carlos to the challenges faced by the Burbank Unified District and the Police Department, this episode encapsulates the ups and downs of the Burbank community. It highlights the resilience of its people, the necessity for transparency and accountability, and the ongoing evolution of its institutions. In doing so, it offers an insightful and engaging exploration of Burbank, illuminating its triumphs, troubles, and trustworthy updates.

Speaker 1:

from deep in the Burbank media district. It's time for another edition of my Burbank talks, presented by the staff of my. Now let's see what's on today's agenda as we join our program hello everybody.

Speaker 2:

Craig sure would hear with, along with Craig Dirling evening.

Speaker 3:

Everybody, and of course Ross Benson, I'm deep into the media district, deep in something you know it was good.

Speaker 2:

You know we're not actually in the media district you know now you've ruined everything.

Speaker 1:

You ruined the illusion.

Speaker 2:

I just found that out. I looked at that. We'll talk about the city report later, but I looked at this and how they did think the city and this actually part of Burbank is not part of the media district, is it's nothing?

Speaker 1:

nothing. It's got to be something. No, no, no district.

Speaker 2:

Look a lake adjacent so, yeah, we're just look a lake mailing. We're just, yeah, you go up all the way to it, goes up the way to Pass Avenue and then it stops, and it stops as far as give away our super secret location it stops as far as the alleys on Riverside Drive and that's it all this area. Please don't tell me we're in LA but we're not in LA. If I call the cops, they actually come because they're Burbank cops here you go, they'll show up if he doesn't call. They often do well welcome everybody to the week that was and it will be. We're gonna have a new feature tonight which we hope you'll enjoy rum roll, craig, rum roll. Yeah, that's a thing we're going to once again, when you want it.

Speaker 1:

Sound effects please never could, never could do that what's that called drum roll?

Speaker 3:

drum roll is no ring a what a drummer hits a sneer and do you drum roll?

Speaker 2:

ring to yeah, okay, any who starting this week. We're going to have ourselves back to a word of the week as the week. Our word of the week will be in somewhere in the show and we'll let you know when it happens. We're not going to take it advance, so when we hit the word we'll let you know. And the winner who sent us an email email to winner at my burbank comms yeah, with the word, and we will receive a $25 gift card. The Hill Street Cafe. Who, ross? We love you right off a.

Speaker 3:

Don't we go Street. You know what you want. The owner love it. Just text me, as you know what they're serving now. What they're serving, they're serving a full turkey dinner, I mean for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2:

A it's it's that time of year and he says only on Thanksgiving or it's gonna be like the month of November or what well, it says we will be open on Thanksgiving day, but pre-orders blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3:

It's all the good stuff that goes with your turkey.

Speaker 1:

I feel like an open-faced turkey sandwich. Or is it an actual turkey dinner with the stuffing and all?

Speaker 2:

the fire. You know what tune in next week and we'll have those answers right that's a ton.

Speaker 3:

It's a turkey time check it out, but go there anyway, because they they got.

Speaker 1:

Everything they have there is good.

Speaker 2:

I think we've been, over the years, been through the whole menu everything is homemade, everything's good, and you go in and you go to the Hill Street. You know, tell me you heard about on the podcast, to let them know that you heard about my bank talks, or you saw they had on their website. My Burbank sent you. We'd appreciate it and they would appreciate it too. So we'll get we'll have that the word of the night for a $25 gift card listen up, pay attention well, let's get on with the week here. Last Monday and last Tuesday there was sure not much going on, so that's it. Thanks for joining everybody and we'll see you next time. No, but last Wednesday on November 1st. And another fine restaurant in town. You know one of our personal favorites, who, by the way, makes great chocolate cake and cheese cake, homemade, the keyless homemade, tequila, other one and we had a fundraiser on November 1st and it was a sold-out event. Ross, you were there. Why don't you tell us?

Speaker 3:

tell us about it it was a packed sold-out event. Patricia and her husband, carlos, who owned the keyless, teamed up with Ashley Erickson, who one of our writers, and you know fantastic people. That was real experience with cancer. The genetic center over at the Disney Cancer Center was there. He had a couple of speakers. She had a speaker that was now battling stage four colon cancer and I know she had done a podcast not too long ago. There were over a hundred and I think twenty thirty people there. I think they raised over thirteen thousand dollars. Patricia and Carlos said anybody that's ordering here will go. We'll donate twenty percent and on top of it we're gonna donate out of our own pocket three thousand dollars. With that, two people walked up and gave her checks for three thousand dollars.

Speaker 1:

I might be mistaken, but I thought I saw an interesting Instagram update from them. They're up to like sixteen or seventeen thousand now total.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fantastic, it's a very personal she lost a million dollars or anything else, but you know what little amounts like that. When a lot of people put those little amounts together, they do add up to the millions of dollars this is community, so this is community at its fatherly. Everybody that was there that night were customers of hers, of theirs, and you know this community podcast all about her personal story and you know, please go back and you know, you know watch or listen to that and you'll listen about.

Speaker 1:

You know what tequila is besides great food, but what it's all about great people there and they have employees that have had their own yep and they're still kind of going through their own journey with cancer and all that. So the Burbank police had the pink cruiser.

Speaker 3:

Out there, one of the guest speakers was the chief himself and he got up there and he made it. You know he was up there to talk about personal items. His daughter is. He lost his mother at a young age from cancer and, like he said, everybody is affected by the cancer. You know, everybody has in their family or somebody. Greg, you experienced it. I have a scar on the side of my head, my leg. They took out a chunk.

Speaker 2:

Now remember you watch the World Series. You know, during one of the games always pause and you know hold up with the signs.

Speaker 1:

I never a dry eye in the house when they do that.

Speaker 2:

I mean every single person.

Speaker 1:

They're held up a sign, if not two or three, yeah, but I recommend everybody out there. Tequila is a great restaurant, great food, and Patty and Carlos have a great operation there. The employees have been around forever. It's a family operating place and they and she they post a lot on Instagram, so I recommend everybody follow their Instagram.

Speaker 3:

It's tequila's Burbank and if you like to still donate to the Disney Cancer Center, there is a QR code on everything that she's doing. You can go to our articles on her Facebook page or Instagram page and you can still donate.

Speaker 1:

And you can, there's a link on the their their bio on their Instagram page to to make donations as well, and you know it was.

Speaker 3:

There was an alley who is fighting cancer, one of the nurses from the Disney Cancer Center. They don't call them there. There's a different word that they call these people that are with them and she didn't know she was going to be there. They're with. You can call these people your nurses 24. You have a question? Three in the morning I get a feeling here or there you can call these people that you were working with. There is a support system out there and, like Ashley, ashley found recently a lump and she panicked. She called her regular doctor. We'll see you in a month when you feel a lump like that. It's it's panic city and I get it. She called the Disney Cancer Center. They got her in within a couple of days. They found out it was not, you know, cancerous. But we were very fortunate. And the Disney Cancer Center I know one of the big things we we always talk about, kusumanos. They donated a lot to Disney Cancer Center absolutely well, let's move on to Thursday.

Speaker 2:

Thursday ready we had the. The Burbank Unified District had their board meeting and we got it, actually had some very good news that meeting. We found out that Dr Oscar Macias is coming back to Burbank as a director of secondary education. Diversity, equity and inclusion. There's a I hope they got big business cards for him.

Speaker 3:

He can say that in English, spanish and probably three other languages he just said it in one syllable as we, as we know, he likes to wear those colorful bow ties, one of things he's known for you know, every time I've gone to his campus, when he was a principal of Luther, he'd have a different tie that's the, that's a stick.

Speaker 2:

It is and he does it well, he's. He left. He left after being the principal at Luther to go to Glendale Unified School District. He was a director of equity, access and family engagement that was a new position over there.

Speaker 3:

They never had they want.

Speaker 2:

They weren't him very badly, but now he's gonna be in charge of secondary education, so he's in charge of, you know, the high schools basically, and what goes on in the high schools, which would be good, and he had been in the Burbank District for 22 years before leaving you know, on social media I am seen everybody's happy you know, because he cares and he will talk to you and he doesn't try to hide things and he's honest, and so we're happy to have him back. We really are. We think that's a great move by the district, you know, great move by John Peramo or Dr John Peramo I always use their titles, so we're happy about that. Friday he had a small little fire at the recycling center and I guess it was some trash. It caught on fire, I guess a conveyor belt. It took about 30 minutes, but I'll be there had a lot of smoke. Well, you have anything on that fire, is that just?

Speaker 3:

well, I had heard that and I thought, yeah, burbank fire kind of they've been there many times. When you have a recycling plant, you got bales of paper and and stuff and like they said it was coming from the building. If you've ever been there that big, that building is huge and it's kind of a free-sided building.

Speaker 2:

It's really not. It's a hose building.

Speaker 3:

It's kind of a you pull in and it's all open on the front, but how they sort their trash is on the conveyors, by sensors and apparently, unless what unless it's a black plastic.

Speaker 2:

That's right, we learned. We learned that and yeah, the thing is, when a pile of trash is on the, you know they don't just go in there and take their hose and squirt some water on top of fires out, because that fire burns down and down and they've got to get bulldozers and spread it out, and then kind of like a brush fire.

Speaker 1:

They have to go down into the earth the certain amount of certain depth, to make sure that the it takes a while to really burning they have fire drills over there all the time.

Speaker 3:

The the the crew's that work at the recycle center. They evacuated. The fire department got there and it's kind of like you listen to it they've been out there before it's they know where to lay their lines. And the first in the engine company. Actually they weren't out there too long.

Speaker 2:

They got it extinguished pretty quick yeah, um, last weekend, the on Sunday, the Burbank Human Relations Council held their elections and a board meeting at the Historical Society's Museum and I guess a certain important Tina was on hand and swore the new board in, what do you? Got on that, ross.

Speaker 3:

Well, I love how Craig annunciated those two words so phonetically, per properly, that you know it's getting good. Well, he did, because during our notes part of the show we tease out a lot of what he was gonna say rifles through the words, so much and we and I was watching him as he was reading this right human relations.

Speaker 1:

What did that sound like?

Speaker 2:

humiliations, the humiliations that's what he's on is the humiliations well, they haven't.

Speaker 1:

I didn't. I thought we promised not to bring that up that's okay, sorry.

Speaker 2:

I just never ever, as he always seemed to be. We're in a hurry before these shows. We we spent a lot of time in our pre pre dinner yeah, dinner, and then we rush to the best part. But you know what's again patties with was Heather, our weather, you know she amazing you know we found a night.

Speaker 1:

She puts up with us what happens.

Speaker 3:

She puts it she is a sharp, sharp waitress.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because tonight what was it, craig, you it said, and we were talking about um, it's not the farm on the daylight savings time, right, and why that? And I talked with Craig beforehand. He said well, you know, the farmers really wanted that and I've never heard that before. And we were telling her what we're talking about. She was oh yeah, the farms just, and I go. Whoa, you knew that she knew the advent of the daylight savings so she was, you know, I was very impressed with you know, she's a very smart girl though she's. You know, I'm not saying girls aren't smart, I'm just saying is she?

Speaker 1:

is actually, and she has a great sense of humor oh, she does well, she puts up with us dry and she's dry to toe with us and that's a thing. But every year they put in legislation to get rid of daylight savings time and and Congress is. I don't know why it keeps getting shut down. Who's fighting for this to stick around? I?

Speaker 2:

don't know if it's the Democrats you put it up that.

Speaker 1:

I know that you know. Republicans put up, the Democrats voted down right, it's just because, yeah, the other person wanted it, so we don't want it. But I think the ones that want it are the ones that still have vcrs and don't know how, the 12 o'clock, but is it 12 o'clock midnight or 12 o'clock noon?

Speaker 3:

oh, I got you, I got you stumped the band but Birkbeck Human Relations Council did elect the new board. They they have some events coming up. You can go to their website. It was nice that again they were over at the Burbank Historical Society which, if you talk about Burbank, relate Human Relations, you talk about our past and our current and where we're going. Great place to have, the perfect place to have, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

yeah okay, well, that's where the week that was, and of course, when you have the week that was, we also have ourselves a commercial.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Now back to our podcast hey, everybody, we're back with you once again, craig Sherwood, craig Durley, and hello welcome back to.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 3:

You know, I just did that and I had water come off my fingers, I know.

Speaker 2:

And wasn't Ross want to remind us tonight to make sure we said hello on camera?

Speaker 1:

You didn't get all these nasty emails because we don't say hello audibly.

Speaker 3:

Well, I can't say what I wanted to say, but you know from the media district.

Speaker 1:

None of us can say what we really want to say yeah, the media district is.

Speaker 2:

I'm heartbroken. I thought I lived in the media district. I guess I don't. I live nowhere. What's today?

Speaker 1:

Today's Monday, monday, monday, oh, you're right let's talk about. Today is Monday November 6. We're going to You're going somewhere with this?

Speaker 2:

No, but it says Monday in bold print it also says today yeah, yeah, it also says 11, six in bold print to no mistakes will be made here. In fact, when you look at Tuesday, it'll say Tuesday in bold print what? Look at that. Wow, wow, uncanny. But it says that every single week.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yet we just found out that we're not in the media district.

Speaker 2:

Well, anyhow. So a lot, a lot of news day, a lot of things going on today. On Monday the morning started with the unfortunate A passerby found a homeless woman in a wheelchair around 6 30 the morning in downtown Burbank on the prom, not right to the AMC's, and she had passed away and was just in her wheelchair there. So Burbank police came and you know, and they found no foul play, no, you know. So they called the corner, we picked up the body. What did?

Speaker 3:

you hear that call. You weren't up at that hour.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, I do pay attention to social media also.

Speaker 3:

Oh, because I was up at that hour and I didn't hear the call.

Speaker 2:

Well, of course you won't hear the call because it's encrypted.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I see how you work that in. Yes, I see what you did there.

Speaker 2:

There are choice, even though I've been told not to say that. Oh, now you've gone and oh, I'm sorry. They've told me not to say it, but guess what?

Speaker 1:

But you couldn't hear them tell you that because they were encrypted. That's true.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's unfortunate, you know, and not to bury the lead here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she, they said she's a well known, you know, transient down there and people knew her and it's too bad that you know her last breath were by herself, sitting in a wheelchair in the middle of the night and she had. I don't know if the Met team or the streets team or whatever had tried to help her, get her low, get her somewhere.

Speaker 1:

We don't know her name, I guess. Huh, I'm not really sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've not released it yet. I said to the corner, release it.

Speaker 3:

So you know. But when you look at the stats, the overall picture of homeless people that are passive, that is one of those stats that even happens here in Burbank.

Speaker 1:

Folks you know, it just doesn't happen so often In Burbank.

Speaker 2:

Exactly yeah, but even when one gets to the cracks, that's one too many.

Speaker 1:

So very sad.

Speaker 2:

Around eight three this morning we had a small brush fire Right the 2700 block of Joaquin.

Speaker 3:

I don't know they're Irving that.

Speaker 2:

And, by the way, that was on fire radio, which are not encrypted.

Speaker 1:

No, you got, you got no excuse.

Speaker 2:

So I actually listen to it. And it started out just as a vegetation fire. They got up there and they had over a hundred feet of vegetation burning kind of hard to get to areas started to expand. They called in a first alarm brush assignment. They're actually starting to get it. Sent an engine up to the hill spot for a helicopter water drop, but that's a number that hill spot 16 a.

Speaker 3:

Oh, thank you 16 alpha Ross.

Speaker 1:

I have a question for you. I'll pose it to my camera. No, a question for you.

Speaker 3:

Where the hell have I been?

Speaker 1:

for the sake of our listening audience, who may not know what's the difference between a vegetation fire and a brush fire.

Speaker 3:

Well, I think brushes, oh, that's a good one. Vegetation is a small, much smaller, like more, like a yard or a parkway like that, where it's limited spread. Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Brushes? I don't know, because I remember a couple of years ago they had a huge vegetation fire on the 134 freeway between what pass and Cuyenca and they needed multiple engines. So that's what it was. It was vegetation. Okay, so that's that way. I believe it's how they look at it. It was not a small fire either. That was a very large fire.

Speaker 3:

Well, if you think about it, With possibility of hitting residences also. Well, down there, but mostly. But maybe the type of fuel Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and we're going to expand to, I guess.

Speaker 1:

But if anybody is watching or listening from our fire department or somebody knows, we kind of know. But if you have an actual definition, go ahead and send it to us at myberbankcom. No contest, no winners here, but just curious info, info. Good info, because we brought up that we used the two different terms in the story Just to explain what a quint is. That's.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going there.

Speaker 1:

We know now. We do know it was a conversation at Internet what a quint is.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we know what a quint does not have a quint, but there was another.

Speaker 3:

There was a new radio term that somebody at that fire identified as a fire. You didn't listen to yeah, I saw it on pulse point. We have now a paramedic coordinator and I believe it was one of our good friends, jeff, who is now in charge of Burbank paramedics. He's a 40 hour man and I will tell you in one second and he responds. He did. He responds to brush fires.

Speaker 1:

He did, and because I saw what was his I guess, like LA City, fire has EMS supervisors, they don't respond to things.

Speaker 2:

But major major, major medical incidents. I guess ours respond to first fire.

Speaker 1:

If you have a lot of good part of patrol responding to an incident, you have a sergeant go EMS C-11. Ems 11.

Speaker 3:

Well, that makes sense, and if you're going to have firemen up there working, he probably not a medical personnel working.

Speaker 1:

He's their supervisor, their resource.

Speaker 2:

And we do have a lot of medical. It's just about a lot of our engine. People on 13s and 15s are also paramedics.

Speaker 1:

We have a lot of medical people. That's a bulk of the work of municipal fire departments now.

Speaker 3:

Well, he was on our podcast at fire service day. Very, very knowledgeable and oversees our paramedic program, which Burbank has one of the best.

Speaker 2:

Also today. We'll have a story on my Burbank tomorrow about it. We're still getting all the details and information. This is where the teletype is the school district. Once again, ross, we have meetings. We can go over sound effects at any time you like that one.

Speaker 3:

I just hear these things.

Speaker 1:

You hear a lot of things, my friend, that's except for you look away, except for most of the time you don't hear police calls, that's the only you can't hear, you know? You know if you dress rehearsal once in a while.

Speaker 3:

Oh, thank you very much.

Speaker 2:

But we had another troubling incident today. The school district reported Dr Brown reported that they arrested a Burbank resident.

Speaker 3:

Well, they didn't but Burbank police.

Speaker 2:

Burbank police arrest arrested a school district employee for embezzlement of funds who stole thousands of dollars from the after school after school program fees. Her name was Penelope Quavis and we found a name on the rest reports and they are going to. We have questions in to find out you know how much was stolen. And evidently and Ross brought this up at our pre production meeting is they force people actually to go to the district and pay cash for after school programs.

Speaker 3:

That's a cockabayny way for a school district who doesn't know how to count the 10. To accept money. I remember when my granddaughter was registering for three K my son said you have 100 bucks on you and I said what? And I have a hundred bucks on me. He said can you go pay for Maddie's registration? It has to be done before four o'clock today and I got on my horse, went to the district office of eight cash.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because they don't know it, because the credit card would take 2.9 percent that they don't want to lose. Instead, they'll lose thousands of dollars in cash when somebody just says I'm not going to turn that cash in.

Speaker 3:

And you know that's a funny question because people have asked me all the time how can you know you invest the money from the school district?

Speaker 2:

Well, apparently pretty easily you know, cash is also called temptation.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and now we wonder why PTAs and booster clubs, they're very restrictive on how they do.

Speaker 2:

The district is ruthless on booster clubs about money, but yet they can't keep track of their own cash that they bring in, which is kind of a but I will say I'm going to say this Got the email from Dr Promo Promo today and I'm very encouraged by the fact that he shared that he didn't find out.

Speaker 3:

He said they are hiring and they're bringing in.

Speaker 2:

They did. No, I did.

Speaker 3:

It's this accounting firm that they're doing a forensic specialist.

Speaker 2:

They brought this in after the, they lost a seven or eight million dollars last year. So now this accounting firm found this. Who knows what else they're going to find. But I really hit my cap to Dr Promo for making it public and not trying to hide something. So maybe we have a new, a new type of, a new type of district now you know, which I've been very critical about in the past, but maybe, you know, with right leadership, things will change. No well, they still have the same school board though, so at least till the next election.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm sure there'll be a police commission meeting coming up. Yes, some point to complain about.

Speaker 3:

You got to think, Craig, you and I have talked about it. We brought it up at the. On this show they're going to look at a bond issue coming up and if they can't handle 10 and $20, who the hell's going to allow them to handle?

Speaker 2:

You know, you might. They don't have a independent council that they do not appoint themselves. I'm going to say don't vote for that because I just I don't trust our board, I just don't trust them Even an outside firm that does this.

Speaker 3:

You know like.

Speaker 2:

I mean.

Speaker 3:

I do the Oscars and the Emmys. Who counts?

Speaker 1:

the votes. A third party and a disinterested third party.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Having a committee is one thing. Having an independent committee, that's non biased, that's what's important. So I mean you get a committee and then I okay, look at how the charter committee, which I think is a good committee in Burbank, but look at how it's appointed. Every council member, you pick somebody. That's how the committee got picked and they had the five people, or the five council members, personal choices. But why couldn't they do that for the auditing committee, which would be scared the heck out of me.

Speaker 3:

But the oversight you mean the oversight committee.

Speaker 2:

If they do the bond measure right.

Speaker 3:

Right. Okay, but for the city they did it the right way. They have some former council members, mayors, commission members they really throw some great people for that.

Speaker 2:

I say the city is not at the issue, it's a school district for me. But I think Dr Promo has made a good first step and also a great second step when hiring Dr Macias back. So promising, yes, promising.

Speaker 3:

So I'm just curious, so that Dr Dr Pepper, no do little.

Speaker 1:

Dr he's already doing a lot, doctor Macias.

Speaker 3:

If he is In charge of secondary schools, he would be the second Insanning for as superintendent. I don't know what they're.

Speaker 2:

Who knows what their hierarchy is? Who knows what their well?

Speaker 3:

That's what it was fire. Well, I kind of wonder if that's be, that would be fantastic. He is superintendent material.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't think Dr Pram was going anywhere.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, and so far, so good with him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so far so good. I know, I know that um Dr Macias will do a good job keeping things in line also, so I Say a lot of positives there in more than one good person up there.

Speaker 3:

There's a lot. There are a lot of good people at the school district that you know sometimes when Puts go out or we talk about them. There are a ton of people that make our kids as good as they are, and we always don't give them credit.

Speaker 1:

We are all very familiar with organizations and industries. That one bad actor, you know, can cast a dark light on everybody.

Speaker 2:

I think you have a lot of bad administrators and it just all happened to show up at the same time, the same place and and maybe it happens sometimes- maybe the coin has changed now or the tide has changed and we're gonna see some.

Speaker 3:

The tide has turned.

Speaker 2:

Let's see going on money. Money's a busy day also. Also the attendance at 6 am, we know at 6 pm, but Arts and public places is gonna meet at the community services building. They're going to review and provide feedback on the call for artist drafts and select a site, specific Selection committee. Another committee again. Member for the Johnny car.

Speaker 1:

That is not the word of the week, though, oh I didn't know.

Speaker 2:

That's not the word of the week. Don't be fooled, for the Johnny Carson Park change structure. Staff will also update the committee on the Purdue go aquatic A facility public art project, and staff will provide the committee with an update on the restoration of the city owned Art pieces you know now that Craig Durling, hmm is very important.

Speaker 3:

I think we should put Craig Durling's name in to assist With the shade structure at Johnny Carson Park.

Speaker 1:

Why? Because I could really benefit it from it.

Speaker 3:

Yes, every year than than anybody every year at carewalk Craig brings his own pop-up. It's also very comfortable.

Speaker 2:

He comes in there with white skin. Leave the Fred skin.

Speaker 3:

Well.

Speaker 1:

I don't tan, I just.

Speaker 3:

I turn pink and then peel and the last couple of years You've done gigs there and I remember I think last year you Changed.

Speaker 1:

Well, I set up in a completely different set of clothes than I then I work in because I always sweat through it Setting up.

Speaker 3:

But that's that sun comes up, that shade structure will be in good use. Be great. Well, I have weight.

Speaker 2:

I can't wait. Finally, at the same time as the art Commission meeting, just walk to another room.

Speaker 3:

Wait at six in the morning.

Speaker 2:

Well, and you go to another room at 615, to the landlord tenant commission Also, the community services building. Their agenda was just posted. Once again, a lot of people on all of are being tossed out, so hopefully they're gonna help those people there. And and now the city has new regulations in place, these landlords are going to think twice. Let's, we want a Tuesday. Tomorrow unless you're listening to say, of course, this tomorrow. But remember tomorrow, remember the seven releases tomorrow and you're actually listening to it today. It's today, I like I'm not gonna hurt. So Tuesday the Permanent Catholic Federation, once again. Why are they meeting exact same times? The city council I do not know why not pick a week that the city council does not meet, but that would make sense Anyhow, the, the Permanent Catholic Federation, meets at 6 pm. The community services building. They're gonna get an update on the youth sports, transgender, athletic policy and Also staff is gonna present the board with a pickleball update now your own pickle something I read that was interesting is that they did a. They did a survey and 80% of the people surveyed were For pickleball and only 20% were for tennis. So pickleball is absolutely becoming the craze and I think you have to make more and more adjustments for a pickleball, but that's becoming. I noticed professional pickleball leagues now and Everything else.

Speaker 3:

So what did no offense? Sorry to say, matthew Perry Was out playing pickleball before he passed away. Well that is not a warning to anybody to go play pickleball and then get into your jacuzzi, but use caution.

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure, love. You even have a jacuzzi. Who? A jacuzzi a lot of I don't think, most of the Hollywood people who can afford a jacuzzi or hot Pickleball is really.

Speaker 3:

That's the craze now that's the. You know, I remember when we started I was a water all over my microphone. You know what from.

Speaker 2:

You're the one using it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'll get electrocuted over there.

Speaker 2:

Stop licking that. It's not a giant lollipop, it's a microphone. That's why there's the spit spit guard on the microphone.

Speaker 3:

Sorry about that got away. Can you, can you edit that?

Speaker 1:

No, oh, no, no, no, and right now we're live anyway, so oh great last week weird and more people watch this live than last week we had 1250 people watching live.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I have a bottle of water, and that's where it must have come from.

Speaker 1:

This is not product placement either.

Speaker 2:

Crystal Geyser wants to sponsor the podcast remember he used to always remove the labels. Now I guess it's no longer, no time.

Speaker 1:

No time for that. About that cut away, but we did this week's address.

Speaker 2:

So the city council is meeting at 6 pm but, believe it or not, on Tuesday they're gonna get a presentation of the state legislative update by Emanuel Jones and associates. This is the company they pay to tell them what laws get signed to, what it means. This is probably the company that either did not give them a SB 35 presentation in 2017, or a new company since then, but let's hope that they get some kind of you know, in-depth analysis of every law passed, not just the ones they think are important, because SB 35 came along in 2017 and then raised its ugly head in what 2020, I think it was or 2021 In the Pickwick project, and nobody knew anything about it.

Speaker 3:

How much we pay these people to be consultants.

Speaker 2:

More than you and I get paid, and we give all this free advice on here too. Okay, well, also on the agenda.

Speaker 3:

This is a big heavy.

Speaker 2:

Mostly, they're all on the consent agenda, which means I just one vote for everything.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's good.

Speaker 2:

Um, and I got a feeling that one of our members will not be voting yes on this item, but it's for the approval of the police department's acquisition of new military, new and additional merit military equipment. So we're talking about two drones, two remotely powered ground vehicles a micro robot. What a Micro robot. A robot, a Robot. I get that button fix. Robot robot, that'd be the word of the week. It's not mr Robot, by the way. Yes, that's our word of the week, robot.

Speaker 3:

In there a song like that, mr Robot oh.

Speaker 2:

Yes, there is.

Speaker 3:

That's.

Speaker 2:

I can't pay the rights fee, so I'm sick anymore.

Speaker 1:

That's right, but the word of the week is robot. And what do they do with that word if they email it to listening?

Speaker 2:

email to the winner at my bird bank. Calm and Tell me the word robot. And what is the email again? Winner at my my bank dot com robot at my bird bank dot com.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know. This is falling or the wheels have left the box?

Speaker 2:

just sent it to a Contest or winner at my bird bank dot com. Either way they're a choice now it both come to me anyway and we will take. And they get a $25 gift card. Do we have one?

Speaker 1:

to show them or no?

Speaker 2:

Yes, we did. We have one and we can show them next week.

Speaker 1:

All right, now we don't have it within arms reach right now we do again.

Speaker 2:

We have pre-production.

Speaker 1:

Here we go, there it is, wait, let me there, it is there, it is there it is.

Speaker 3:

Show the numbers.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, no, these cameras aren't that.

Speaker 1:

But that's a clear email you can bring.

Speaker 3:

It's a $25 gift certificate. I would suggest you bring yourself your family, your friends. That is a great place. You can go and talk and sit for an hour and have a great conversation.

Speaker 2:

Today restaurant for an hour ready two hours at the Hill Street.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how long were we at Patties tonight? For an hour, no, but up at Hill Street. That's what's nice it's not overcrowded where they push you out because they need to see the in the aplenty room and and bring somebody with you. You know you'll enjoy their soup, which Craig is they're soup.

Speaker 2:

Yes, they have soup Homemade. It's homemade.

Speaker 3:

I forget which crook I was supposed to throw that to.

Speaker 1:

I'm not sure you were looking and pointing at him, but I know the tomato brisk on Mondays is absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 2:

Tomato what Tomato brisk on Mondays is absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 3:

That tomato brisk is. What about their corn chowder? Good, what about their?

Speaker 1:

clam chowder. You know what my favorite is there the chili spaghetti.

Speaker 3:

I've never had it there.

Speaker 1:

But I make it with linguine at home Because the chili sticks to the pasta better. So I usually go to Hill Street and I assume it's still on the menu. But I request that they do it with linguine, because it sticks to the noodles better, but the chili with onions and cheese so good.

Speaker 3:

What about their dressings? Homemade, homemade Boy, you guys are.

Speaker 1:

You got it all figured out, go to Hill Street, go and claim your gift card and go to Hill Street.

Speaker 3:

And you might see us there. And Mr Dirling, yes, sir, you lived all of 375.

Speaker 1:

Lived right around the corner. That used to be my stomping ground, but now it's patties. And all this on the riverside over here.

Speaker 2:

Let's get back to the show here, though.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I thought we were in a commercial break.

Speaker 2:

We had a discussion already for Hill Street All right Back on topic. Now the council is going to approve additional military equipment two drones, two remotely powered ground vehicles, Of course, the micro robot.

Speaker 1:

Well, that is the micro robot.

Speaker 2:

Yes, six kinetic energy weapons, including a 40 millimeter launcher, and this project out consists of plastic body and sponge nose. Now, these are all items that you know, in all honesty, these are all items that the police department needs as part of you know it's a new world and this is stuff that some of this is non lethal stuff and for officer safety.

Speaker 3:

But I you know what we have an expert. We do be in the room, that.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad he's with us tonight and not on special assignment, because this is as they say right up here and on my wheelhouse, yes, and on my wheelhouse, this is all stuff. The three things you mentioned, which are really three items the robots, the drones and the 40 millimeter systems. These are all things that are. My first thing that I noticed on the on the agenda and the proposal is all the mention of military, military equipment, and I and some people don't like that term, hearing that term interchanged and mixed with local law enforcement. These are not tanks.

Speaker 2:

And so there are just not tanks.

Speaker 1:

This is not your standard military equipment. All of these things. Even though they're required to report them through different funding that they get from the federal government, from the Department of Defense. It falls under that. The city is also partially paying for these things, but this isn't your typical military equipment. All these three things, these three items are items that are really bringing the department into the modern as a modern day police department. They've always been on the leading edge here, but these are departments are getting these drones. Now they're getting the 40 millimeter. We say less, less lethal. We don't really say non lethal anymore, because there is a chance that if used wrong or it strikes the right person the right way, there could be a fatality. There have been in history. That's why the terminology has evolved to less lethal noise put an eye out and always put an eye out. That has happened.

Speaker 3:

You know and you talk about drones. I have been to a couple of their training exercises.

Speaker 1:

Now, instead of putting an officer to go into a house, or check a yard you can take and send a drone into a house and open area, the check and open area. Yeah, well, you can we come from an agency that was kind of one of the leaders now nationwide of the local law enforcement drone programs and you have to be to do a properly your part 107, licensed by the FAA to launch them. You have a pilot and an observer to look for hazards, you're in touch with the local tower FAA and all that. It's very organized. There's a lot of licensing and training that goes in. But these they don't take the place of helicopters but they sure are more available. You know you have the different the pilots. They have them in the vehicles. There are some that are so small with cameras and telemetry. You can send them through windows We've searched, how is it? The inside of houses and buildings. We've trained in malls, going into different stores and all that. And if you can do that instead of sending officers or canines into harm's way, that's great and you can get. You can see the layout, you can go down hallways and doors, that's great. And and the way the proposal reads is is they're all going to be properly trained and licensed. The 40 millimeter launchers the question came up earlier. We weren't really sure what Burbank PD uses for less lethal. Now do they have the 12 gauge? I think the beanbag super well there, the 12 gauge format, the old ones are the square beanbags. Then they advanced to super sock rounds because they were. They were more accurate and more aerodynamic. I don't know if that's what, what, what Burbank PD uses now or if there are using 40 millimeters and are looking to just get more or would have you. But the 40 millimeter platform right now is what a lot of agencies are going to. It's, it's what I'm an instructor for that platform have been for for many years. But there the the sponge round they're talking about has a name. It's a defense technology, is a manufacturer, but it's called the exact impact 40 millimeter standard range sponge round and they're far more aerodynamic, more accurate because you're still responsible for every round that goes. Range less down range, less lethal or otherwise. So they're more accurate, more kinetic energy, which is basically the energy of movement you know, caused by created by a moving object. They're bigger surface area. There they're. They're the usable range, anywhere from five feet to about 120 feet effective range. So much better, much more reliable than the 12 gauge platforms. Again I say I say I don't know what they're using now. One of the big problems historically with the 12 gauge platforms is departments that used shotguns and had shotguns in cars with lethal rounds. There was the potential of confusing the ammunition right, so they came out, and it's happened in the past, unfortunately, where you get a live round mixed in with us lethal and before you know it you have a lethal situation we had that woman in Chicago Illinois who thought she's picked her tazer pistol and she shot the guy with a real gun and yeah and and there and there's. There's a whole training and policy aspect to that too which I could speak to if it ever came up on podcast, but I won't probably get the time now but there is no way we've got any connections between machines.

Speaker 3:

We might be able to know if someone get". And so it was the situation. It was going towards trial period and of course some people said this had pictures only be seen like that until they saw it signens.

Speaker 1:

They said um, what did we see? A man where what the guy questions, with a camera and telemetry that I guess they can throw through a window and it can land, however it lands and right itself it says it can go up steps.

Speaker 3:

Yep, it can go up, you know.

Speaker 1:

And that's kind of a you know another use that they could, something they could couple with a drone maybe. But all these things I wouldn't tack. On the word military, Don't let that turn you off, because it's not. These aren't.

Speaker 2:

Don't be surprised to haul in the park in a couple weeks. You look up and you see a drone above you. They have a drone to watch the crowd and then check the rooftop.

Speaker 1:

Totally, totally. We used to deploy them all the time because they come in very handy.

Speaker 3:

Well, july 4th I was up. I got at the launching pad for the fire department and Burbank had their drone up there with their monitor and there were people walking on the fire road up in the mountain which they sent the drone up. You can't you think about it. You can't send a person running up an hill like that. You send a drone up and I guess they could talk through it.

Speaker 1:

There are some some of these drones are large enough you can attach fliers to them, Really Fliers cameras Tell me what a flare is. Well, Ford, looking infrared Right. So basically, like a helicopter would have a flare where they can see heat. You know they see there's somebody hiding in that bush. You can't see them, but I can see the heat source. They could mount those on drones now. So very useful, A lot of utility to them. Wait for crowd control. Looking in the hills again for hot spots, maybe after the fireworks. With the, with the flare or infrared, they can look for hot spots without having to pay the pay to have a helicopter, maybe looking around for that Burning fuel.

Speaker 3:

Well, burbank didn't have one last year. Yeah, it was down.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, so a lot of uses. Not going to put helicopters out of business, but, but it's very handy and far more cost effective than maybe having to bring a helicopter in, and I don't think people.

Speaker 3:

you know there are these people that are anti law enforcement, but nowadays you to can turn on your TV at any time and watch a report about SWAT getting called out or a barricaded suspect and so forth. And Burbank needs to be prepared right like any other city.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I still predict you right now to be a four to one vote on this.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, and one more plug about the 40 millimeter, because I'm a. I'm a fan of that system, but there's more utility to it because the different rounds we talk about the, the sponge round for impact, direct impact but they have different rounds. They have rounds that have pepper spray OC, really, and pregnant in them they have marking rounds. So in a, let's say, a crowd control situation, you want to mark an instigator or the leader of the group or somebody who caused the vandalism or who threw a bottle at an officer. Tag somebody, you basically tag them. It's got marking paint in it and you can Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 2:

And then the F 18 takes them out.

Speaker 1:

Is that in there?

Speaker 2:

I don't think that's on the list.

Speaker 1:

I don't think that's on the list here. This is all. This is all available.

Speaker 2:

Let me ask you a question as to being an ordinary citizen. Oh, you're not or have the situation and I'm not going to say at Home Depot or like we had there, because they actually use non lethal rounds- Leslie. Leslie, but we don't know what.

Speaker 1:

necessarily, we don't know why we weren't able to.

Speaker 2:

But I think it was a beanbag when I'm not sure we tried to look it up when couldn't find out Right. But my question is this if you're a suspect, let's say you actually do have a firearm and all of a sudden you get hit by a couple of these things and think you were shot. If I mean I'm going to be, I'm shot, I'm going to get killed, I'm going to just start shooting now because of that, of that thinking you have been hit with a real bullet when you have it.

Speaker 1:

And that happens, and that happens in part of the training and policy. Anytime you are deploying a less lethal system, whatever it is pepper ball, beanbags, 40 millimeter you have lethal. Right next to it you have somebody with a, with a rifle or some manner of lethal force?

Speaker 2:

Are you supposed to announce first that we're going to?

Speaker 1:

You can.

Speaker 2:

It's not going to be a matter of policy or practicality. I don't think they did that. You know I don't think. Yet I don't know, I'm sure at Home Depot. I don't know if they announced it first. I know that they did shoot him with something first before he went to a prone position.

Speaker 1:

Usually policy will will. In my personal experience, policy will say give warnings when applicable, when it's safe to do so, when you have time to do so. You have the warnings. Because you do and you have the potential of sympathetic fire. You definitely want to let all the officers know that you're going to be pulling less lethal because they they hear, you know it sounds like a shot being fired. You never know. You know what will follow that. But you don't have an officer out there all by themselves with less lethal you have. You have the lethal component.

Speaker 2:

That's a part of the thing. I'm just thinking, though, that it's such a you watch as they get a search warrant right and all of a sudden they stand the door and the guy is ready to break the door down, and as it starts swinging forward right and goes open the door, search warrant and within two seconds the door is just all of a sudden, you know, pounded off the hinges. We announced it first. Yeah, you're now right.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's always. That's always been a messy, messy area.

Speaker 3:

Recently I got to hear the full audio of the most recent shooting somewhere, and then this was Orange County Sheriff, I think at the motorcycle bar that the X cop went in and shot some people. And to listen to the full audio, it's. It's not the full.

Speaker 2:

It's the audio they released.

Speaker 3:

Right, but you would hear them say fire and 40, fire and 40. Yeah, and then they, you know it's. I think it was more for the officer. Let's go Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

The military would say they're going to blow a door, fire in the hole. I mean, it's a warning, that is for that sympathetic fire.

Speaker 1:

You don't want everybody because you might not, they might not see you, they might be behind the building, so you definitely want to let all the officers on scene know about it. And, like I said, most policy, I'm not familiar with Burbank PD's policy but a lot of them generally state give warnings when Clickable or practical, I guess.

Speaker 2:

We don't know any any officer who ever wants to pull the trigger on a real gun. I don't think that I've never heard an officer say, boy, I'm sure glad I did that, or you know they're glad they did to protect somebody's life, but they're. I mean there's a lot of remorse when you take a person's life. So anything we can do for less lethal rounds, less lethal anything is, is a good positive.

Speaker 1:

Don't be scared away by the word military, term used in the all the terminology literature here. That's because it's a formality.

Speaker 2:

It's an assembly law. That was, and they have to call it. That's not really. It's an assembly law that they have to use.

Speaker 1:

As for auditing purposes, and I'm curious.

Speaker 3:

Most of the stuff they've had. It looks like they're updating to more current and they don't use it daily. I mean, out there, burbank is pretty safe city but they use it for training like the 40, you know launcher or whatever, or the drones. They use that for several things. These things need to be replaced and updated.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, they need to be. Yeah, they need to be updated. The 40 millimeter is the most common, probably one of the most common impact weapons out there now, and it has a lot going for it as far as accuracy and distance, usable distance and all that. So, again, not knowing what they currently have out there, some departments start with they have one in the supervisors vehicle and if somebody wants to deploy it, then they got to get the supervisor there to do it. They have to watch it happen. But in my former department, everybody in patrol, everybody in uniform was trained and certified to use them. Everyone had one. There was one in every unit, so you didn't have to wait.

Speaker 3:

Was that part of the consent agenda? Yes, so it'll be probably, unless somebody will say we'll pull that one off.

Speaker 2:

I vote yes and everything, except for number whatever. I just have a feeling that's going to happen.

Speaker 3:

It's kind of interesting People. The reason we're expanding on a little more. We do have an expert here with us, craig Durling, and we're trying to explain it to you Exactly.

Speaker 2:

We do understand why it was on in our council.

Speaker 1:

I mean I could. I could believe me, I could get into the weeds on each of these three items, especially the 40 millimeter, but there's no need to go that we're not here. But my biggest thing, the takeaway from this is this, is updating the department. It's it's giving, providing modern day tools to the department that can save lives, keep officers safer, but please don't let the fact that military is spread all over the terminology.

Speaker 2:

We're not going to get the F 18.

Speaker 1:

Don't let that dissuade you, or or or scary away. None of these three things are. This is what many municipalities are using now.

Speaker 3:

I'm so glad you worded that way because we have, at one time within the last couple of years, all these people going be fun. The police they have too much.

Speaker 1:

They don't want to militarize the police Right.

Speaker 3:

This is not doing that, not doing that very clearly.

Speaker 1:

It's monitor, modernizing the police.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that was great.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you. How are we going to pay for that? One of the ways we're going to pay, that is, we're going to have an acceptance of funds from the state citizens option Republic Safety Program, which everybody kind of call cops. They're going to be giving the city of Burbank a check for two hundred and sixty nine thousand eighty dollars and thirty six cents, which is kind of it's based on a population, and they can be used for personnel equipment, crime prevention, anti gang programs, but it cannot be used to supplement the city's law enforcement program. So that's interesting. They're also going to accept a donation of a forensic science fuming chamber for biometric identification services.

Speaker 3:

You know, people kind of wonder about that and I had one time applied to the city to be a forensic evidence technician and I had taken classes on that, and a fuming chamber is very well used and you can put material in there to make latent fingerprints appear on things from paper to metal, to make them visible, make them visible.

Speaker 2:

And probably a lot of things that they couldn't do 10, 20 years ago cold cases and probably reexamine now if they still have those pieces of evidence and maybe get a fingerprint Possible, Never know on a cold case.

Speaker 1:

I used to use in my CSI days because of yet another thing on my resume. I did CSI investigation for a couple years but what we used in those fuming chambers more often than not Super glue, super glue. But what would you call it in court? The sound, all the rest of us smart.

Speaker 3:

That's a challenge. Word.

Speaker 1:

And this should have been the word of the week, but nobody could spell it.

Speaker 3:

Including myself, fragrant, frugalistic xp.

Speaker 1:

Cyanoo acrylate. Of course I also know it is crazy.

Speaker 3:

I know it very well. I have not removed Right.

Speaker 1:

I thought you were just making a point.

Speaker 3:

No, these fingers have been together for years.

Speaker 1:

Is that why you haven't taken the headphones off in weeks?

Speaker 3:

I can't move those fingers apart.

Speaker 2:

But also we do have a consent agenda. We're going to agree with Richard Cariso, cariso, cariso, cariso, cariso, cariso. Ah, it's a public art project To include the artist's fees, material supplies lack equipment, insurance and other related expenses to design and paint the final piece.

Speaker 1:

You know I want to make 14,000 of that is going to be insurance right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, probably yeah To the city, but I've seen it. I used to see the old mural inside McCamber's Recreation Center on all kinds of things. That's how he was doing a television show. They're filling McCamber's. Could you see that mural? I've never seen that in an old emergency episode.

Speaker 3:

You know, I see that there we donated $500 for a box to be painted.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we did. And they've painted all the other parts, the four Magnolian Hall of the Way.

Speaker 3:

Well, I drove by the other day, very upset. I drove by two weeks ago and there was graffiti on it and it got removed the next day.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but what about the paint job? Is it?

Speaker 3:

protected. No, it's fine. It's fine. They used some special stuff to get the paint off. But you know what? We went to all I saw several boxes and they put posters for the Roxy Theater there. I called the parks department and they're going to go out and see if they can take that poster off without damaging our box. I said, you know, for the people that paid for those boxes, that was just very uncool to see a promo for the Roxy over our utility boxes.

Speaker 1:

Yep, that was not Ross's rant.

Speaker 3:

No, but not your rant.

Speaker 1:

You got to wait for that.

Speaker 2:

The city is also going to hopefully approve Joe Madougal's, our city attorney, Joe Madougal's request for one billion dollars.

Speaker 3:

That's one million dollars, right? Don't we have that cash register?

Speaker 2:

Yes, we do. We do have the cash register for that. We have one million dollars for Bring it up To fight the, the district in lawsuit, brought on by our friend, nicholas Gutierrez, who's actually filed the lawsuit as of October 20th. They served it on. They served it then and challenging us to use that large voting system and the city council decided to fight this, which I mean I'm all for. And once again, a million dollars. Bring it on, baby. You know, I'll tell you what. If we win that lawsuit, I don't see Nicholas Gutierrez pay us back the million dollars, whoever he is yeah, whoever he is, if he is. So we're all for that. By the way, speaking of court cases, today the city of Burbank went to court in the Hill, the Hill Street, the Tin Horn Flats plumber hearing, and Gallagos tried to argue that the city was unjust in arresting the, the kid, and the judge says no, it was a lawful arrest and he's also. They also talked about the lawsuit in general and the judge goes no, the city acted lawfully. So right now, the trial is set to begin in January, like when we're hearing in December, and the trial will start in January.

Speaker 3:

Once the same judge, same judge. Oh good, because then maybe Mr Gallagos might not be winning this one.

Speaker 2:

Well, I can't see, how I can't see. I think he went, did everything correctly and I hope the city goes after every single dollar they spent.

Speaker 3:

You know, people were all laughing when they put that fence up. People were laughing when they had police officers put out there for weeks and weeks.

Speaker 2:

Well I was doing. We had a special course in court today to watch the proceeding and we will have a story on that tomorrow. So we have a lot of stories come out again tomorrow Also you know what I saw on news today on my Burbank.

Speaker 3:

I did look at the front page of my Burbank today. What did you say? You move like six stories quicker than Buffalo Bill. There's a lot going on today. There was the city announced they have chosen the replacement for Judy Wookie, absolutely Of Courtney Page. Courtney, take two. Where did I come up with that one?

Speaker 2:

I have no idea. Courtney Pageant who?

Speaker 3:

I have worked with for many, many, years.

Speaker 2:

You do very well, in fact.

Speaker 3:

I do know her so well. Clearly she has been the administrator at the police department for the last couple of years and done excellent work. Well, she was also on the board of Leadership Burbank and I will say I have done some photography for them. She is so quick and accurate. I put an invoice in and she returned it in the same mail, the same day.

Speaker 2:

You and I talked about a lot of possible candidates for that job, and she was not one of them, but Justin Hess, once again being the smart cookie he is.

Speaker 3:

He's getting.

Speaker 2:

He knew he picked somebody that you know. Very happy the dislection she will fill Judy Wookie. Judy Wookie did a great job for our city. We hate to see her go but at least we know somebody's coming in there who's very capable and we'll put the city in the forefront.

Speaker 3:

Yep, and it was just when I woke up and read that press release. I was overjoyed.

Speaker 2:

The police department will miss her, but they'll find somebody for that I'm sure they'll find somebody capable, you know.

Speaker 3:

but once again, if you read our website this morning.

Speaker 2:

You would have known that first. So I'm glad somebody looks at our website.

Speaker 3:

You just moved a ton of stories today.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there's a lot going on.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's kind of the job News machine.

Speaker 2:

The news business doesn't wait for anybody.

Speaker 3:

Well, see people, if they don't hear the podcast, go look at myburbankcom and see they have to wait a whole week to hear the podcast. Well, that's it. Yeah, exactly, and in fact I think one of our stories is the update that Ashley put up for holiday in the park.

Speaker 2:

Let's see here. We're going to also have updates on both. These are reports now on the Golden State Neighborhood Protection Plan and on the Media District specific plan by the way, we're not in the media district here anymore the media district specific plan and the objective of these plans is to discourage cut throughs and spill over traffic and reduce demands on residential on street parking by developing a series of tailored street improvements and traffic programs to reduce impacts from adjacent development projects that may increase traffic congestion or reduce parking supply in residential neighborhoods. Now, the problem I have with this is that the company they chose to do the media and I actually participated in a couple of media because at that time I thought I was in the media district, it's they didn't seem to know. Sad. I am, I am sad we have to change the show open now. I you know we're going to close to the media district from adjacent to the district. But it was an outside consulting company who really didn't know the area that well, didn't understand how the studios work, how the employees work, that they're not nine to five 40 hour week jobs and their conclusions about traffic and their conclusions about transportation were totally off. These must be the people who also promote the Burbank buses of Roy now, but it just I know I was not impressed with this company and even the city staffers involved. I'm not sure they're even Burbank residents.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, that's what the concern is, because I remember you and I have talked about it. You know you and I have worked in the studios and we know you know if you're like well, burbank resident, you don't you kind of know how the city operates and these consultants come in and don't know shit and a lot of our city staff now are not like the old days.

Speaker 2:

These people were residents for 20 years and now you're cousin you know. Now they're bringing people in. It's a starter job for them, to move up the ladder, and so they don't really care about what they you know. To me it's like the old city councils of the past. How do we get an pension problem? Well, they voted on all sorts of programs and incentives and then they're out of office, and now we're all paying the bill. So you know, it's it's. I think people who make decisions in our city need to have a skin in the game. But you can't. You can't make them live here. They'll say they can't afford it, although I'm sure they can't afford it if they really not if they want to have an event. Yes, nothing, we have an event here.

Speaker 3:

Don't get me started, buddy. No, I know.

Speaker 2:

Anyhow. So that's it for the city council meeting. We're going to move on now to Wednesday and we'll get through a couple of things quickly here. The board of library trustees meets at five thirty at the Central Library. We'll receive an update on project planning and they're going to discuss where to hold a meeting in December. So they're going to have a meeting to discuss if they're going to hold a meeting. That's on the agenda. That's on the agenda. I love that they have to have a meeting. Somebody please put that in the police department's agenda, police commission's agenda. You know, should we have meetings when we have nothing to recommend?

Speaker 3:

But I don't know now with this new you know they got the funding for the library. They're doing a lot of stuff. It's kind of now, when do you start meeting?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think that that's going to be a huge thing. I think we need to have a lot of public input on that. You know, I think that the Civic Center downtown, you know, let's hope it's just not another Civic it's not going to be special and we do something that's futureistic. We're going to look into the future a little bit and you know how are things going to look at if you not just do what's going to work today, what's going to work in 25 years, 30 years from now. Yeah, let's be on the the future of that. Moving on to Thursday, Burbank High Baseball team is going to before their baseball or their winterly game at six o'clock. They're going to have veterans there and they're going to honor some veterans we have. I believe our vice mayor is going to be there, I'm sure Mickey DePaul is going to be there and they're going to honor our veterans. And before veterans day which is a nice thing before their game starts at 6pm.

Speaker 3:

And real quickly. You did a podcast this last week with Mr Bob art.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we did our coaches corner, which we we thought we don't really want to guess Microsoft, oh great, great podcast.

Speaker 3:

I listened I like you. Thank you. I know a lot of people did, but if you want to know where that's all Mike comes from.

Speaker 2:

Mike is the greatest promoter in the world.

Speaker 3:

No, I've heard it other places, but coach does these events with veterans for a reason and if you want to know why, listen to that podcast, I think the entire thing, which I think is I commend him for it.

Speaker 2:

I think it's something that's that's lost in our sports world and you know, sports is more than just going out and throwing a ball or hitting a ball or things. Sports is more than that, and the coaches that do more and community type things are the kids who have life lessons.

Speaker 3:

So well, you know what? Here's a challenge to every citizen in this city. Friday is Veterans Day. It'll go on a McAmberg spark.

Speaker 2:

Saturday is Veterans Day.

Speaker 3:

But the ceremony here in Burbank is Friday. Right, my point is show up and you will see the Burbank high baseball team sitting with their coach participating in that event. You know, and I don't know how many people in this city will sleep through it, but honestly, those kids can get up and show up and honor our vets.

Speaker 1:

So can majority of the fill that's full of the stands for them.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot of seed in there too. Also, on Thursday, park and Rec Board is going to meet at 6pm at City Hall. One thing they're going to get is the the bell golf course and report and fiscal fiscal year for 2223. They're going to get a pickleball update, so they'll hear about all the pickleball going on and the big thing is a capital improvements update. We found it interesting that on the all the projects that they would like to do but the problem is the funding is not currently available but the submittals they have for next year or five year plan is with the Johnson Adult Center for waterproofing May Cambridge Park Pool renovation which they did receive a check for a pickleball court complex at Georgia State Park Master plan. The red new got quick aquatic facility pool slide replacement Already needs new slide already. Valise gate part expansion which I'm not sure where they will expand that to.

Speaker 3:

But the next one you're going to love.

Speaker 2:

The Mary Alvin's recreation center and Redugo aquatic facility renovation. That's what I love. No, they just did the next one, I'm sorry. The Tuttle Senior Center renovation. That's the one I love, huh.

Speaker 3:

How about Starlight Bowl?

Speaker 2:

Starlight Bowl. That's right. That's in our 10 year plan. They want to do a Starlight Bowl renovation and I say we'll believe it when we see it.

Speaker 1:

This is quite a wish list.

Speaker 2:

Not funded.

Speaker 1:

Put together.

Speaker 2:

Not funded, we'll get into the Starlight Bowl a whole another day, but that's that's. That's. That's a huge, a huge burbank benefit. It's one of the jewels of our city and it needs to get polished.

Speaker 3:

And what did I say during our pre show meeting? The bell clubhouse expansion. What are we doing, folks?

Speaker 2:

Yeah you know. So we want the colony theater to pay for everything they do, but we want to pay for expanding the clubhouse at the at the bell. I don't understand how it seems to be a double, double edge thing here. We make the colony pay for everything, but we want to pay for the Debell which has an outside operator working it.

Speaker 3:

The bell clubhouse expansion. Is that so they can make and have larger reunions?

Speaker 2:

make the restaurant bigger. This is a clubhouse of the restaurant, though See the restaurants different in the clubhouse.

Speaker 3:

Where's the clubhouse?

Speaker 2:

I think it's down below. It's maybe the park, the golf courts, and maybe people change or something. I don't know. I used to golf. I used to have good to good knees also. Anyhow, moving on, moving on to Friday Well, you know, don't let me think that I'm not, for I have a huge, like Russia's saying, our huge proponent Veterans Day and a ceremony to be a 1015. They're gonna have the condor fly over. The burbank band is gonna be there to. They do a great job, playing all the songs of all the military songs. All the veterans come in there. They're uniforms you know from years past. The dignitaries are there and who will lead the show. Why don't you tell us?

Speaker 3:

I bet you it'll be Mickey the Apollo.

Speaker 2:

You, better you will be.

Speaker 3:

I'll put money on it. It's your bottom dollar. There you go and I'll fall off the dollar. I thought I have it.

Speaker 2:

We actually have a podcast with Mickey the Apollo pretty soon on our coaches corner, so we will get more into his history with that $10.

Speaker 3:

It'll be Mickey the Apollo.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, I get some odds on that.

Speaker 2:

Amblings illegal is in California, I don't have to go to Draft Kings, I guess it's illegal in California anymore, especially L A County. Anyhow, my, my small little rant thing is the veterans. Every time we talk to a veteran, we always say thank you for your service. You know, we are always, you know we're always very positive with veterans, and veterans day, or, as they used to be called, armageddon's Day, november 11th, is a very special day, yet for some reason well, because we have a city holiday on the 10th, we'll celebrate on the 10th. Why can't we celebrate on the 11th? That's the day it should be. So, you know, we're telling all these veterans hey, thanks for your service. But you know what? We don't have the time on the weekend to do this for you. We don't want to pay our staff over time To me, I'm sorry. Veterans Day, you know it's like saying, okay, you know, christmas is on the weekend, so we're going to celebrate Christmas on Friday instead. I just some holidays, I get it, okay, maybe on Presence Day or or certain holidays, but days like Memorial Day, veterans Day, you know, the 4th of July, somehow we celebrate the 4th of July on the 4th every year. We don't? You know we don't celebrate that on Friday. So why is Veterans Day on, not on the 11th? Today it should be on to tell these veterans. We do thank you, we do appreciate you. That's a good point, but your argument is that because the federal holiday is being observed on Friday, which is fine, I have no problem with that but our ceremony should be on the 11th, the actual day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, especially if it's a weekend. It gives you three days off. I get it.

Speaker 2:

They want a three day weekend and some people don't celebrate Veterans. I respect that. I mean everybody to do our own thing. They want to go like, have a suit, have a nice trip, but we're celebrating our veterans and for them we need to have that ceremony on Veterans Day on their day not on just today's, convenient for our city and to save money. If we're saving money on that, then we're saving money on the wrong thing.

Speaker 1:

I mean not knocking that, there's a ceremony that we're appreciating.

Speaker 2:

We love it all.

Speaker 1:

Your point is have it on the actual day.

Speaker 2:

Have it on the day. Have it on the day, tell those veterans we do appreciate them.

Speaker 1:

I would love for us to get out of this three day weekend, holiday weekend thing. I don't know when that started, but it's just a reason for entire generations to forget what that day is about. All they know is oh, it's a three day weekend. I have a long weekend.

Speaker 2:

Let's get the barbecue going. Memorial Day is always on a Monday. It's not on a specific day of the week because there was an event on in May that we actually would say. But Veterans Day is a day based on the armistice.

Speaker 1:

Date on the calendar.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's 11th, 1111. And we should be celebrating on that. We said our ceremony I shouldn't say celebrate, we should have our ceremony on that day.

Speaker 3:

Or we do celebrate. We're celebrating our veterans, we're honoring our veterans.

Speaker 2:

We're honoring them that whole weekend and I say, great, but let's have the ceremony itself the day that they actually show up and we say thank you on the day it's supposed to be, we'll send them the production note for next year.

Speaker 3:

Here you go. Yeah, have it on the day.

Speaker 2:

Actually it'll be on Sunday. I'll say are you kidding us? We don't do anything on a Sunday.

Speaker 1:

It's time and ass double time.

Speaker 2:

Okay, moving on. And, by the way, veterans, you know, thank you very much, thank everyone. We're able to do this podcast. We're able to save what you want to say and do what we want to do because you gave us that right you, a lot of you, laid down your lives and a lot of you sacrificed the freedom of speech right now all because of our veterans.

Speaker 1:

So thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2:

One second. Don't let me think that I'm not appreciative of everything they do.

Speaker 3:

You know from our guys that served overseas, our guys that are currently serving. You know we have people we might be going to war. It's sad to think about it. Certainly try into you know, and our guys that are enlisted right now. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, our worlds have been a mess for years and I just got to have them, got to have a strong military.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for doing what you do and doing what you've done.

Speaker 2:

So this weekend, of course, veterans Day is actually on Saturday, so we will honor our veterans on day, personally, on that day. That leaves us. That leaves us with only one thing left. And the reason you've shown now close to an hour and 15 minutes, and that is Ross's rant.

Speaker 1:

We need the jaws theme for this. I'm not if I do it.

Speaker 2:

John, john Leo's way not like that.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. I happen to know, john.

Speaker 1:

Williams. He's busy scoring Indiana Jones 12 or something.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

He's made his money, so right Ross.

Speaker 2:

Ross, it's time for Ross's rant.

Speaker 3:

All right. I got a couple of them but I'll make them real quick because we're into here a long time. You know we've talked about the Columbia Ranch being ripped down or torn down to make way for new stages. We see Pickwick getting, you know, demolished for new condos. It's nice to see that the property owners of the ranch, jeff Worth Company, the Pickwick, has given the Burbank Fire Department rights to go in and do some training. You think about it. Our firemen at three in the morning wake up to respond to a fire and they go up on a roof and have to cut a hole. So they got to practice at the ranch and I saw some aerial pictures. I think every roof was torn up. They also got to go in there and cut doors, break windows because they were going to demolish it. I think, and I applaud these companies to give the fire department great practical hands-on training.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, world training.

Speaker 3:

And I'll tell you the Pickwick, talking to a couple of firemen that got to go in there, that building was 50, 60 years old. It's a different construction, totally different.

Speaker 2:

Best is probably.

Speaker 3:

Well, that and everything else I mean. But they cut the roof, they laid lines. What they do is hook to the hydrants. They did some real drilling.

Speaker 2:

What's the one thing they can't do anymore because of our beautiful AQMD? What can't they?

Speaker 3:

do anymore. I can't put these buildings down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they can't light little fires to practice.

Speaker 1:

God forbid. Yeah, because it might pollute the air you know you want the smoke to get in the way of the smog.

Speaker 3:

So, as there's a turn that they use in the fire department I don't know, law enforcement probably did it too you drill as if your life depends on it because it does. Train as you live, live as you train, yep, and I applaud these companies, you know. I know there was a ton of stuff, bad stuff people talk about, but I applaud them for giving them the rights to go in there and so forth. My other one was a small rant. I drive around this town quite a bit and I have gone by two cars. One that apparently got abandoned off the freeway at the. I guess it used to be the Scott Road Off-Ramp, now it's called the San Fernando Road Off-Ramp. It's actually where, between the freeway and Grisbrough, there's been a white car parked there now for two and a half weeks, totally abandoned. You could tell it's the windows are all open, the car is dirty. It probably got pushed off the freeway. Then I drive down Victory Boulevard at Cyprus, there's a motorcycle illegally parked in the lane of Traver, in the parking lane. I thought motorcycles, you had to have a tire against the curb, but it's not and it's been there for weeks, weeks, abandoned.

Speaker 1:

Why aren't they picking this stuff up? All right, last parking. I think that's a challenge Been offered, a challenge to go mark these things for 72 hours and get them off the road. Thank you very much. I think that's a call to action.

Speaker 2:

That's it. Well, ross's rant is always phew, we got out of that, one unscathed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it wasn't about either of us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank goodness, great Holy cow, it's a good week.

Speaker 3:

Well, because I think of our great waitress Heather, I think you know we look up at. We have a countdown timer up here, a countdown timer.

Speaker 1:

It's running out of digits.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know we went a little long tonight, but you know what we talked about it. We got new things. We gave the new word of the week, which is robot, robot.

Speaker 2:

You email us and I bet you, by the time we go in and look at the show, somebody's going to ask me how do we actually pick if 10 people, 20 people, send the word, how do we pick which one? I take the emails in order that they come in. So let's say we get 23 emails All time. And I know which one comes in first and I sign up a number one through 23 and then I go Alexa picking every one in 23,. Whatever Alexa comes up with, they're the winner. So that's how we slept, we don't. It's not who, our friend is not who, and he's pre-selected. You know it's.

Speaker 1:

We let the computer and we apologize to anyone that's listening to this podcast on speakers, because everybody's device and all their homes just came up with a number.

Speaker 2:

It's funny, I was looking around, because I actually have over 94 automated things in this house and I have Alexa on six of them in our, in our studio. Stop saying the word, the A word. We actually our studio. Here we have what we call computer, so say hi, computer. Can you, can you have a computer blink the lights or something. Yes, I can For our viewers. Computer, computer turn off studio.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oh, geez, Now we've done it. Okay, computer, that sounds like a good time to end the show right there. My Burbank talks would like to thank all of my Burbank's advertisers for their continued support. Burbank water and power, usamano real estate group, you me credit union, burbank Chamber of Commerce, game credit union Providence, st Joseph Medical Center, community, chevrolet, media City Credit Union, ucla Health, tequila's Burbank, logix Credit Union, hill Street, cafe, hurtain, escobar Wealth Management and the UPS Store on 3rd Street.

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Less Lethal Options and Drone Usage
Update Police Equipment and Funding
Announcement of Replacement for Judy Wookie
Concerns About Outside Consultants and Events
Park Rec Board Meeting and Veterans Day
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